Cuchulin
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He can take a number and get in line behind everyone else.
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As far as LePaul knows he's come out the undisputed winner in each of those confrontations.It doesn't exist formally, but the Illustres has been tripping over all their establishing schemes and getting bitten and/or battered every time it happens.
Honestly, I feel that I understand his desire to get the other colors established. But after 1 or 2 times that the Yellow Lantern schemes affected him, I feel he should have stopped being so nonchalant about it. Sinestro's excuse that it wasn't their intention may be true, but damn, it feels like they keep gunning for him and because they miss or only graze him he goes "eh, still not my problem, this is fine".
It doesn't exist formally, but the Illustres has been tripping over all their establishing schemes and getting bitten and/or battered every time it happens.
Honestly, I feel that I understand his desire to get the other colors established. But after 1 or 2 times that the Yellow Lantern schemes affected him, I feel he should have stopped being so nonchalant about it. Sinestro's excuse that it wasn't their intention may be true, but damn, it feels like they keep gunning for him and because they miss or only graze him he goes "eh, still not my problem, this is fine".
Another one lines up in the Queue. Wonder who his beef gate will be?"My name is Crad. Illustres Crad. And I will seek you out when I am ready."
Less 'failed to kill' and more 'could not be bothered to save'.I suppose it's not surprising that one of the Citadelians that Paul failed to kill was able to attain yellow enlightenment, considering everything Paul did to their people.
Thank you, corrected.
And in the main timeline, everyone in Vega ganged up to exterminate the psions.I think you're confusing the Citadelians for the Psions. In the Renegade timeline, the Renegade led a strike force to annihilate the Citadelians, but let the Controllers get the Psions so that they can be turned to more productive ends. We later see Hinon with Psion followers, so that turned out fine for the Psions in the end.
It doesn't exist formally, but the Illustres has been tripping over all their establishing schemes and getting bitten and/or battered every time it happens.
I forgot this. Can anyone remind me what happened to him?
Nah, I wouldn't guess so. Every enlightenment is different, and OL still feels and is driven by other emotions even if his nature is defined by his relationship to the Orange Light, unlike the Will or Fear enlightened Lanterns where those emotions seem to overpower any others by their very nature.I wonder if that's what he looks like to others with Empathic sight. Just a human-shaped blob of Want.
Paul revealed to Bane that his absentee father is King Snake. Bane travelled to Hong Kong to kill him and ran afoul of the Great Ten. His soul was subsequently taken by Ghost Fox Killer.
Paul notes that the Great Ten and the Chinese Standing Committee on Metahuman Affairs as a whole work best with against a highly concentrated enemy that makes itself known once discovered, not the discreet and highly diffuse forces that the Sheeda favored. As such, the Chairman of the Chinese Standing Committee on Metahuman Affairs was very anxious when Paul brought forth Dr. Sivana's demands in exchange for his assistance in defeating the Sheeda.Speaking of with, Mr Zoat you mentioned places like India and China got hammered by the Sheeda and lost a lot of population as a result, but while this makes sense for DC India, DC China has been in Xcom mode low intensity war footing getting ready for an alien invasion for decades, I expected them to do extremely better than most earth nations as a result, but after the Sheeda they haven't even been a factor in the plot.
Paul notes that the Great Ten and the Chinese Standing Committee on Metahuman Affairs as a whole work best with against a highly concentrated enemy that makes itself known once discovered, not the discreet and highly diffuse forces that the Sheeda favored. As such, the Chairman of the Chinese Standing Committee on Metahuman Affairs was very anxious when Paul brought forth Dr. Sivana's demands in exchange for his assistance in defeating the Sheeda.
The Sheeda are able to get away fast in addition to their stealth. So whenever they attack, by the time a response team is sent in, the Sheeda would be long gone.Yes, but unlike most of earth the Chinese have been dealing with alien shape-shifting stealth infiltrators with moderately advanced technology and weaponry for decades, that is pretty much 80% of the average Sheeda invasion force right there.
Unlike most of earth, they have live combat experience they can use. One would think they would have done better than most of the world as a result, certainly not better than absurd DC USA, but better than disarmed Europe at least.
The Sheeda are able to get away fast in addition to their stealth. So whenever they attack, by the time a response team is sent in, the Sheeda would be long gone.
If I remember correctly, the Durlan attack high value targets which have defenses against them. In contrast, the Sheeda want people, so they can attack anywhere at anytime, causing massive civilian casualties.Again, it's not just the great ten super team, during Grayven visit to China he sees a large parade with the normal infantry soldiers are running equiped with advanced technology and weapons not dissimilar to DC USA giving their police officers laser rifles, with additional combat vehicles and drones. Meanwhile police in Europe are either unarmed or armed with pistols (as we see in London) and yet somehow Europe did better against the Sheeda than the Chinese?
London has its Shaman confirmed and THAT can excuse how well the city did, but I have no reason to believe other European city centers are going to have equal magic measures of protection or that their police and military are more advanced than what London fields and are thus in anyway ready or as prepared as the Chinese or the Americans for the Sheeda.
Edit: Also we have confirmation in the narrative that European governments like the Danish minister were under Sheeda control and somehow Europe did better than China?
Yes, but unlike most of earth the Chinese have been dealing with alien shape-shifting stealth infiltrators with moderately advanced technology and weaponry for decades, that is pretty much 80% of the average Sheeda invasion force right there.
Unlike most of earth, they have live combat experience they can use. One would think they would have done better than most of the world as a result, certainly not better than absurd DC USA, but better than disarmed Europe at least.
If I remember correctly, the Durlan attack high value targets which have defenses against them. In contrast, the Sheeda want people, so they can attack anywhere at anytime, causing massive civilian casualties.
But weren't the Sheeda using magic-based technology and camouflage? I get that the Chinese have their Superfunctionaries and their armed forces. But the Sheeda usually hit targets of opportunity with high density of population, no?
Europe is smaller and less populated. Regular police forces can't do shite, yeah, but they do have armed forces and I can't buy for a second that the OTAN wouldn't be as well equiped as the Chinese armed forces, and still, regular armed forces apparently couldn't do much against the Sheeda because they had some magic-based stealth. Meanwhile China has, I believe, a bunch more densily populated areas over a bigger territory and they also imprison those Metahumans that don't want to play ball.
On the other hand, I don't think China had it that much worse than the US or Europe, relatively speaking. I would expect that from India, for sure. And apparently South America collapsed, if not Latin America in general. I would just say that China got hit and they felt it, but they were probably rebuilding as well as could be expected.
The problem is that they were adapted for durlans and not Sheeda.China happened to him.
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Speaking of with, Mr Zoat you mentioned places like India and China got hammered by the Sheeda and lost a lot of population as a result, but while this makes sense for DC India, DC China has been in Xcom mode low intensity war footing getting ready for an alien invasion for decades, I expected them to do extremely better than most earth nations as a result, but after the Sheeda they haven't even been a factor in the plot.
Sort of. China doesn't field shamen with their soldiers but they do have shamen in military service. The problem is that they're... Not very good. China basically destroyed most of its magic-related records -sometimes for good reason- and had to restart its magic knowledge basically from scratch relatively recently. A lot of them still work under heavy ideology-related restrictions. It's still better than the situation in Europe or the US as far as government magic goes, but both of those can get private sector magicians if they really need them.The Chinese literally field demi gods and spirit Shamans in their troops, when it comes to magic their government is probably only behind Atlantis, Themesira and London/Uk.
The problem is that they were adapted for durlans and not Sheeda.
Durlans don't care about a bunch of rural farmers. They want technology and their own pre-civil war records. Their infiltrators are few in number. As such, China could focus its xeno teams in urban centres and focus its detection efforts on a small number of sites.
Sheeda love harvesting peasant farmers. They want crops, animals and raw materials, and those are often easier to access at the source. They had dozens if Highborn, thousands of warriors and tens of thousands of combat creatures, all of which were highly mobile and potentially invisible. China doesn't have enough high-end forces to spread them out enough to cover places that the Sheeda attacked.
Sort of. China doesn't field shamen with their soldiers but they do have shamen in military service. The problem is that they're... Not very good. China basically destroyed most of its magic-related records -sometimes for good reason- and had to restart its magic knowledge basically from scratch relatively recently. A lot of them still work under heavy ideology-related restrictions. It's still better than the situation in Europe or the US as far as government magic goes, but both of those can get private sector magicians if they really need them.
Edit: Sorry, that should be official government magic. British masonic lodges would quietly slaughter the lot of them.
China's population is 37% rural, as opposed to the US's 17%. The US also has the advantage of a far more active superhero scene. Though, yes, rural areas in the US did suffer raids as well.
Again if the Sheeda cannot attack the Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities then the damage they did to China should be fairly negible in the immediate term and the Chinese main food production and farm land is around those heavily defended territories as well so the long term damage is also questionable.
Strategically, Geographically and logistically the core of China se society IE what the Sheeda would have problems attacking should be more than fine, thus there is no realistic reason to render them a non factor in the narrative of the fic.
Is the same as the US losing rural counties in Colorado, their absolute destruction and complete kidnapping of the population would barely register to the USA, in the strategic and logistic level.
Have you considered that maybe this superhero fanfic that runs largely on comic book logic (despite the SI's occasional attempts to behave vaguely rationally) may not actually be trying to figure out what what the "realistic" result would be and is instead just doing whatever seems most narratively convenient for what Mr. Zoat wants to write? Like, I honestly don't know what you hope to get out this conversation. You demanded a reason why China doesn't seem to be doing very much. Zoat tried to come up with one. You replied saying that reason is no good. What's the idea, that you have Zoat continue to produce reasons why China was hit hard and isn't doing very much right now until we find one that passes muster and you can approve of?
You're absolutely correct about everything you've said.Again that isn't really much. Intensive farming isn't done in the rural Chinese outback, so losing all of those people would barely account for 2% of Chinese production. China is speedrunning modernization that means some places are extremely modern with absurd production output of produce and industry in general while the rural areas are still using subsistence farming/fishing and living off government support when their crops fail.
Losing 30% of their rural population and subsistence production would account for a production lost of a single digit percent at best.