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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
I stare into the depths of my pint glass, watching the bubbles making up the foam on the head gradually burst. On the television in the corner of the room Batman is introducing the first few Global Peace Agency officers to a broadly positive reception, both from the audience and from the few people in the bar watching it.
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There are still bubbles after three hours? Well, similarly to Oh El I've never been a drinker, so maybe that's normal?
 
I know most of the League is busy with reconstruction, but I feel just bringing up what Batman's doing to them would cause several of them to try to stop this.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Gosh darn it, past me. Why do you always have to make my life difficult?

In that case, duel wielding is possible if you've got exactly the right mindset, but your constructs are going to be significantly weaker.
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I think rather than weaker (as shielding has been involved when Grayven fights dual wielding) they should be less energy efficient and grayven manages more easily because he is cheating as a new god because he technically got both rings through conquest and metaphysically that makes his soul cheat when it comes to construct strength vis a vis his emotional state when using the spoils of his victory.
 
Signaller said:
The Lasso can also be used to divine absolute truths? I think that was a thing in the second WW movie?
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And nowhere else? And that was a terrible movie. It compels truth as the person being lassoed knows it, and can compel the truth to be revealed if a person is hiding it / mind controlled, but even with all that and the comic showing it's the embodiment of the concept of truth in the universe, it's never in the comics been used to divine the truth as far as I know.
 
ForeverShogo said:
For a way to explain why Invincipaul's ring went wonky when he tried to promote fear . . . You could just say that it was a clash of intent with desire? That even if he went in intending to use fear to keep people in line so they wouldn't be killed, he didn't really want to do that and the dissonance was severe enough to impact his ring's functions.
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It's more that the way rings work in this setting, the intent to inspire fear is specifically a yellow ring thing to increase the strength of your constructs. It's incompatible with orange, and for non-enlightened users, the wrong mindset shuts the ring down. The same thing would happen if he tried to stubbornly will himself to act instead of wanting to act.
 
Vaermina said:
So... He's not even going to try and stop the obviously Brothereye Batman from taking over the world?

Wow... I know he's been generally useless as of late but that's honestly impressive...
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Dude, give him time. He still needs to go around gathering allies and ressources. It's like when he was planning to take down Nabu. A Batman with a power ring and an army of superpowered minions is NOT something that should be underestimated or taken lightly.

Mr Zoat said:
Gosh darn it, past me. Why do you always have to make my life difficult?

In that case, duel wielding is possible if you've got exactly the right mindset, but your constructs are going to be significantly weaker.
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So it is like in canon, then. I recall that when Hal and Guy managed to dual-wield green/blue or green/red and red/violet, it was really hard for them and it was more of a hindrance than a power boost, because they had no idea how to go about it (and in Guy's case, it nearly drove him insane). Granted, Hal had less trouble with it because will and hope are synergetic with each other, while will/rage and rage/love are not.
 
CrazyNoVa said:
Dude, give him time. He still needs to go around gathering allies and ressources. It's like when he was planning to take down Nabu. A Batman with a power ring and an army of superpowered minions is NOT something that should be underestimated or taken lightly.
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It's also that he's not sure that he should. Nabu being evil was so obvious to him that he was genuinely shocked that the League didn't see it that way. With Batman, he's not sure that he's wrong.
 
Mr Zoat said:
It's also that he's not sure that he should. Nabu being evil was so obvious to him that he was genuinely shocked that the League didn't see it that way. With Batman, he's not sure that he's wrong.
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That means he can be on the sidelines when someone else takes their shot then. I would be interested in seeing Paul seeing a similar situation from the outside.
 
Ngamer11 said:
That means he can be on the sidelines when someone else takes their shot then. I would be interested in seeing Paul seeing a similar situation from the outside.
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Mr Zoat said:
It's also that he's not sure that he should. Nabu being evil was so obvious to him that he was genuinely shocked that the League didn't see it that way. With Batman, he's not sure that he's wrong.
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So, would he take a neutral stance, then? Play mediator between Batman and the rest of the League to try to avoid conflict when they inevitably find out about this?
 
CrazyNoVa said:
So, would he take a neutral stance, then? Play mediator between Batman and the rest of the League to try to avoid conflict when they inevitably find out about this?
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More like be kept out of the loop when someone tries something, similar to what Paul did with Nabu only hopefully less confrontational.

Also, I just realized that Paul could probably commiserate with Dr. Mist now. Dr. Mist believed that non-intervention from superpowered beings is necessary in order for humanity to grow properly. He was severely mistaken about this and is only recently begrudgingly admitting that his viewpoint is very flawed. Paul believed humanity needs to strive to become greater as a species, only to learn most humans would rather leave the actual important decisions to a select few and remain stagnant unless forced to do otherwise.
 
Mr Zoat said:
What do you mean 'find out'? They all already know.
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Even about Buddy Blank and the other OMACs? Or the more concerning repercussions of the new legislation? Because if so, then it's weird that none of them tried to talk to Batman about it, or tell him to dial it back. I figured that at least one or two League members would object to this.
 
CrazyNoVa said:
Even about Buddy Blank and the other OMACs? Or the more concerning repercussions of the new legislation? Because if so, then it's weird that none of them tried to talk to Batman about it, or tell him to dial it back. I figured that at least one or two League members would object to this.
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Remember the Sheda invasion and the anti-life broadcast happened just a little while ago and we can't forget about the world split that ended with hundreds of thousands if not millions of kids ded or maimed.


If Batman makes the right arguments then I don't see how anyone on the league disagrees... Even Flash killed the Sheda queen in cold blood.
 
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