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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
"Yeah. It's not a secret. Getting into Heaven is simple but that doesn't mean that it's easy. Assuming that you want to."
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Actually it is that easy in DC.

But then, you never actually asked the beings involved and are just assuming based on what you were recently told about your own choice of afterlife.
 
That reminds me, did Hades recruit extra people to handle the increased intake? There are now way more customers than he can handle himself in a reasonable amount of time.
 
So are the vampires here based on DC or Hellblazer? Because stuff like guns or stakes sould only be able to harm or even inconvenience a Hellblazer Vampire if theyre inexperienced.
 
Aeess said:
So are the vampires here based on DC or Hellblazer? Because stuff like guns or stakes sould only be able to harm or even inconvenience a Hellblazer Vampire if theyre inexperienced.
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Mostly mainstream DC here.

The KoV style vampires don't care about holy symbols other than as a personal superstition like being afraid of ladders or black cats, don't care about garlic, and Darius was confident in his ability to regrow an entire body after being decapitated by a grenade before getting killed by a buddy of Tommy Monaghan opening the church up to the sunlight with a bulldozer.
 
Stsword said:
Mostly mainstream DC here.

The KoV style vampires don't care about holy symbols other than as a personal superstition like being afraid of ladders or black cats, don't care about garlic, and Darius was confident in his ability to regrow an entire body after being decapitated by a grenade before getting killed by a buddy of Tommy Monaghan opening the church up to the sunlight with a bulldozer.
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They are still affected by those things as long they believe that they would harm them,The King of the Vampires was like trillions of years old and just knew that except for Sun light and Demon blood nothing would really be able to affect him, but that doesn't mean that any american vampire would know that.
 
Chojin Patriarch said:
Correction: 'sound too sure'?
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thebishop8 said:
Should that end with a question mark? "Rub it or something?"
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moralrelativity said:
that
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Thank you, corrected.
Sockmonkey said:
That reminds me, did Hades recruit extra people to handle the increased intake? There are now way more customers than he can handle himself in a reasonable amount of time.
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The three judges are hearing their own cases rather than collaborating.
 
Some versions of Gotham have Faust as a mage/supervillain there.

Yes the same Faust that's enemy of the JLA.

Apparently his power level fluctuates all over the place because he gets it from demonic deals.
 
Hey, whatever ended up happening to the Neutrino key the saremites used to have? It got stolen by Johnny Sorrow from the amazons presumably on behalf of the Light to unlock an ancient vault where the saremite civilization, before being destroyed, kept their schizotech equipment?

Was it empty or something?
 
Pinklestia said:
Apparently his power level fluctuates all over the place because he gets it from demonic deals.
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He also buys back his soul when he has the chance, so his soul is very very used.

Which now that I think about it, needs some explanation. Buying back ones soul from Hell achieves what now when there's really no chance one isn't going to Hell anyway?

It would make more sense to sell ones soul to a demon who would have an advantageous position for a sorcerer in the afterlife.

Ra-man was shown as the chancellor of Reign in War in Hell, as an example. Hard to get a more prestigious position than that.

Ra-man is an Egyptian demigod superhero wizard, not the god of instant noodles as the name might suggest, by the by. :)
 
Stsword said:
The KoV style vampires don't care about holy symbols other than as a personal superstition like being afraid of ladders or black cats, don't care about garlic, and Darius was confident in his ability to regrow an entire body after being decapitated by a grenade before getting killed by a buddy of Tommy Monaghan opening the church up to the sunlight with a bulldozer.
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A person with TRUE FAITH might be able to more damage using the right holy symbol than with a regular weapon (Ninja Stars of David? J/K).

Mr Zoat said:
The three judges are hearing their own cases rather than collaborating.
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Hopefully they have help with that, at the very least the shades of slaves who were owned by ancient Greek or Roman lawyers/judges.
 
Stsword said:
He also buys back his soul when he has the chance, so his soul is very very used.

Which now that I think about it, needs some explanation. Buying back ones soul from Hell achieves what now when there's really no chance one isn't going to Hell anyway?

It would make more sense to sell ones soul to a demon who would have an advantageous position for a sorcerer in the afterlife.
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Well, you might be going to Hell anyway, but that could be decades from now and you could end up anywhere in Hell. By buying your soul, that particular demon is guaranteed to get your soul instead, and depending on the gritty details they might end up getting it a lot sooner.

Plus, if you're cooperating with the demon, it might be easier to use your soul; dead or not, a powerful wizard would have a powerful soul, and even if they can subjugate you they might not be able to do it without seriously damaging you and rending you less worthwhile.

Exercises in choosing the best possible spot for your soul when it ends up in Hell is... probably not going to work all that well, unless you don't mind doing a bunch of evil stuff instead of getting tortured. Also, the people with the state of mind to sell their souls probably aren't going to care that much.
 
Stsword said:
Which now that I think about it, needs some explanation. Buying back ones soul from Hell achieves what now when there's really no chance one isn't going to Hell anyway?
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It gives you time.

Faust is depending the version, centuries old.

He has even got out of hell more than once.
 
Guys from Gotham (part 16)
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    • 17th February
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    Charlie the night custodian hands me back the rune stone and I return both of them to my equipment harness.

    "Well, this has been fun."

    "Charlie, if you think this has been fun-." I frown for a moment. "Then I'm glad we were able to do it, but you may want to consider the fact that most people would have found it boring."

    "Yeah, I was just being polite." He shakes his head. "I've seen this stuff, like, every night for six years now. Waving a rock at it didn't make it more interesting."

    "How'd you get a job like this?"

    "Last place I worked at got burned down by Firefly, and the last guy who worked here got killed by Joker. They were having trouble hiring people, I needed the work…" He shrugs.

    "Do you like it?"

    "The stuff kinda freaked me out the first few nights, but after a while it just starts being background, you know?" I nod. "It's usually pretty quiet, too. I've only hit the panic alarm, like, twice? I mean, I know there's supposed to be less crime in Gotham these days, but I still assumed that it'd be more risk with it than this. At this rate, management are gunna dock my pay."

    "I don't know. Getting an honest and reliable employee in Gotham is a valuable enough thing, even if you aren't getting assaulted by supervillains every day." I shrug. "If you like, I can put in a good word?"

    "Nah, don't bother. Best for me if no one even remembers I exist. The less reason people have to come looking for me, the better."

    "Ah. Okay. Thanks for your help." He nods politely and turns away. I raise my right hand to my head. "Orange Lantern to Robin."

    "Hey Oh El. You done at the police impound?"

    "Yes. Nothing magical, no attempted break ins, just piles of stuff that matches the inventory. What's going on in the city?"

    "A lot of random acts of violence, but it's all pretty low level. Assaults, attempted break ins… The Commissioner thinks it's drug-related, but they won't finish the blood work until tomorrow."

    "Could you do it?"

    "I'm not a professional chemist, Oh El. And I don't have time to take blood samples from two hundred addicts at police stations all across the city."

    And I.. could, but…

    I try creating a construct syringe and… There's a faint glowy orange shape for a moment, but it dissipates almost at once.

    "Looks like I'm out of investment."

    "If you mean you need to recharge your rings-."

    "No."

    "If you need a rest you can take off. I can stay here until Batwoman-."

    "Robin, what emotion catalyses my constructs?"

    "Avarice. Oh. Has.. Gotham really ticked you off that much already?"

    "I don't cope well with intractable problems. But yes, I am a little tired. I'll probably feel a bit more helpful tom-. This afternoon."

    "So in the interest of Batman's threat evaluation..?"

    "This doesn't weaken my defensive abilities at all. But I have to want someone hurt in order to hurt them. I have to want my world my way for me in order to make it that way. I'm not.. seeing this as the actions of a few bad eggs in a city which otherwise works. We joke about 'Gotham being Gotham', but on a night like this I struggle to see Gotham as anything other than a spent cost."

    "That's.. pretty harsh."

    "If I hadn't watched a planet burned from orbit a little while ago I'd probably feel differently." I shake my head. "Wake me if you need me-need me."

    "Okay. See you later, I guess."

    "Oh, ah… He didn't want me to say anything, but the custodian was pretty helpful. So if you hear about any similar jobs with better pay or conditions…"

    "I shouldn't think he'd be interested. He's starting a pre-college course next month."

    "What, like a 'back to school adult education' sort of thing?"

    "Oh El? Charles Adelsen is a nineteen year old art and design student."

    Scan.

    "This place is fitted with wards, isn't it?"

    "Everywhere is. It's a contract requirement. What's wrong?"

    I march towards the exit. "The man I encountered wasn't nineteen, and he gave me a story about working here after Mister Lynns destroyed his last place of work."

    "Got a picture?"

    "Yes. Ring, send."

    "Compliance."

    He's gone. Alright, another git disrupting my mission. Ring, scan as best you can. Wraith, go and find them but do not possess them.

    The pale orange shade wafts out of my ring and flies down the corridor ahead of me. Scan detects… Nothing out of the ordinary in my immediate environment, then… A small amount of dirt on the floor. Someone scraping their boots off? The dirt is slightly damp and the last few days have been dry… But sprinklers are a thing, so that doesn't mean anything. Soil chemistry… Could have come from nearly anywhere in this part of Gotham.

    "Not getting any return from the facial recognition system. Did you check their security tag?"

    "They were wearing one. It looked authentic."

    "Empathic vision?"

    "I didn't probe them too deeply. Looked normal enough."

    Okay, I do have this building's plans. Where would be a good place to stuff a body?

    "Did Mister Adelsen log in this evening?"

    "Yeah, but it's just a card reader. Visual recognition gets done by the other guys who work there."

    My spirits sink. "And they log out the same way, so if someone was quick they could kill them all and the system wouldn't register anything was wrong?"

    "No, there's… Cameras-. No, the rest of the detail definitely left. I've got their cars leaving the lot on the traffic cameras."

    "With them inside?"

    "Confirmed shots on most of them."

    "Alright then. So if it's not that, then whoever 'Charlie' was got in later. Heading towards the main entrance now, I'll be out of contact for twenty seconds or so."

    I phase and fly through the wall towards the nearest exit.
     
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    Charlie the night custodian hands me back the rune stone and I return both of them to my equipment harness.

    "Well, this has been fun."

    "Charlie, if you think this has been fun-." I frown for a moment. "Then I'm glad we were able to do it, but you may want to consider the fact that most people would have found it boring."
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    Eh, he's probably lying about it being fun...

    "Yeah, I was just being polite." He shakes his head. "I've seen this stuff, like, every night for six years now. Waving a rock at it didn't make it more interesting."

    "How'd you get a job like this?"

    "Last place I worked at got burned down by Firefly, and the last guy who worked here got killed by Joker. They were having trouble hiring people, I needed the work…" He shrugs.
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    Happy alignment, then.

    "Do you like it?"

    "The stuff kinda freaked me out the first few nights, but after a while it just starts being background, you know?" I nod. "It's usually pretty quiet, too. I've only hit the panic alarm, like, twice? I mean, I know there's supposed to be less crime in Gotham these days, but I still assumed that it'd be more risk with it than this. At this rate, management are gunna dock my pay."
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    Hey, at least it's quiet and easy work.

    "I don't know. Getting an honest and reliable employee in Gotham is a valuable enough thing, even if you aren't getting assaulted by supervillains every day." I shrug. "If you like, I can put in a good word?"

    "Nah, don't bother. Best for me if no one even remembers I exist. The less reason people have to come looking for me, the better."

    "Ah. Okay. Thanks for your help." He nods politely and turns away. I raise my right hand to my head. "Orange Lantern to Robin."
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    Surprised nothing major went down while OL was busy.

    "Hey Oh El. You done at the police impound?"

    "Yes. Nothing magical, no attempted break ins, just piles of stuff that matches the inventory. What's going on in the city?"

    "A lot of random acts of violence, but it's all pretty low level. Assaults, attempted break ins… The Commissioner thinks it's drug-related, but they won't finish the blood work until tomorrow."
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    Drug-related, eh? The Smilex derivative hit the streets?

    "Could you do it?"

    "I'm not a professional chemist, Oh El. And I don't have time to take blood samples from two hundred addicts at police stations all across the city."

    And I.. could, but…
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    You don't wanna.

    I try creating a construct syringe and… There's a faint glowy orange shape for a moment, but it dissipates almost at once.

    "Looks like I'm out of investment."

    "If you mean you need to recharge your rings-."
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    Are you trying to be funny, Robin?

    "No."

    "If you need a rest you can take off. I can stay here until Batwoman-."

    "Robin, what emotion catalyses my constructs?"

    "Avarice. Oh. Has.. Gotham really ticked you that much already?"
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    Gee, you think?

    "I don't cope well with intractable problems. But yes, I am a little tired. I'll probably feel a bit more helpful tom-. This afternoon."

    "So in the interest of Batman's threat evaluation..?"

    "This doesn't weaken my defensive abilities at all. But I have to want someone hurt in order to hurt them. I have to want my world my way for me in order to make it that way. I'm not.. seeing this as the actions of a few bad eggs in a city which otherwise works. We joke about 'Gotham being Gotham', but on a night like this I struggle to see Gotham as anything other than a spent cost."
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    It's amazing Batman never gets like this, but we all know he's crazy. Productively crazy.

    "That's.. pretty harsh."

    "If I hadn't watched a planet burned from orbit a little while ago I'd probably feel differently." I shake my head. "Wake me if you need me-need me."

    "Okay. See you later, I guess."

    "Oh, ah… He didn't want me to say anything, but the custodian was pretty helpful. So if you hear about any similar jobs with better pay or conditions…"
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    Heh, putting in a good word anyway. That's OL for you...

    "I shouldn't think he'd be interested. He's starting a pre-college course next month."

    "What, like a 'back to school adult education' sort of thing?"

    "Oh El? Charles Adelsen is a nineteen year old art and design student."
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    Wait a what the what now?

    Scan.

    "This place is fitted with wards, isn't it?"

    "Everywhere is. It's a contract requirement. What's wrong?"

    I march towards the exit. "The man I encountered wasn't nineteen, and he gave me a story about working here after Mister Lynns destroyed his last place of work."
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    Bugger. Well, at least OL's got some investment going.

    "Got a picture?"

    "Yes. Ring, send."

    "Compliance."

    He's gone. Alright, another git disrupting my mission. Ring, scan as best you can. Wraith, go and find them but do not possess them.
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    Oh, yeah, he still has that, doesn't he?

    The pale orange shade wafts out of my ring and flies down the corridor ahead of me. Scan detects… Nothing out of the ordinary in my immediate environment, then… A small amount of dirt of the floor. Someone scraping their boots off? The dirt is slightly damp and the last few days have been dry… But sprinklers are a thing, so that doesn't mean anything. Soil chemistry… Could have come from nearly anywhere in this part of Gotham.

    "Not getting any return from the facial recognition system. Did you check their security tag?"
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    You assume he'd grab everyone's complete bio on sight? He isn't Batman.

    "They were wearing one. It looked authentic."

    "Empathic vision?"

    "I didn't probe them too deeply. Looked normal enough."

    Okay, I do have this building's plans. Where would be a good place to stuff a body?
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    Oh, that's quite likely, isn't it?

    "Did Mister Adelsen log in this evening?"

    "Yeah, but it's just a card reader. Visual recognition gets done by the other guys who work there."

    My spirits sink. "And they log out the same way, so if someone was quick they could kill them all and the system wouldn't register anything was wrong?"

    "No, there's… Cameras-. No, the rest of the detail definitely left. I've got their cars leaving the lot on the traffic cameras."
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    So only one casualty... So far.

    "With them inside?"

    "Confirmed shots on most of them."

    "Alright then. So if it's not that, then whoever 'Charlie' was got in later. Heading towards the main entrance now, I'll be out of contact for twenty seconds or so. "

    I phase and fly through the wall towards the nearest exit.
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    And the hunt is on. Things are picking up again.
    Correction: Extraneous space.

    Hoo boy. Depending on how long this guy was running around in here, anything could be missing, especially stuff he checked which OL didn't. The Bats are going to have words about this...
     
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