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I was totally wondering how long it'd be before someone compared me to a nazi.I'm honestly rather impressed by the parallel you've been building between yourself and overgirl here. It's a remarkable example of how being opposed to someone who's in the wrong doesn't mean you're not just as wrong.
I haven't taken the time to seriously follow it but I have a whole lot of respect for the art.
Given my experience with Neo Nazi's, waving the flag and screaming the mottos is more then enough to do it. Such a fun bunch.That's the point. There may be no bill, not just because someone is waving nazi flag and cheering mottos. You can't know.
Maxx you seem to support collective punishment of one nazis for the crimes of other nazis. The Allies were quite discriminate when they performed denazification, unlike the Soviets, who due to their collectivism treated social groups like hiveminds.
Why do you honestly believe that I care that much? Or rather, Earth 16 SI-Me with a power ring would care that much? I would be seriously concerned at the level of awe-inspiring destruction that guy would be willing to do once he got cranked up.Why are you so sure that Overgirl have done anything? Or will do in the future?
Not...entirely sure you're all that up to date with the right-wing of Israel. I don't think she'd make it out of the room if they held all the power. Israel doesn't really fuck around.For all we know, after a thorough mind-reading examination, she might be released exonerated from Israeli court, or get a medium-length sentence.
I mean, I would have already flattened her for all the "sub-human" cracks. Plus, thinking of Kaldur as a "Good house Negro" (And let us just hope Negro was the word) would have already had SI-Maxx creating several layers of wall to put her through.Also, you are conflating theoretical support of nazi crimes with practical support of nazi crimes.
Nah.What this logic is telling you is that a non-violent, non-criminal, non-enticing bigot, no matter how hateful and genocidal, does not deserve violence initiated against them, but should be hated and insulted back non-violently.
I'm confused, are you trying to talk me out of my position with the thought of "They haven't exterminated any sub-humans just yet, due to the lack of them"?Being an enthusiastic member of nazi regime does not necessarily mean that they have actually done anything, if only for the lack of opportunity.
I'm not saying it would be 40K style Exterminatus.....but I don't trust SI-Maxx not to employ righteous fire. Fairly certain that cute bastard's gonna end up with a Red ring anyway, maybe Yellow, so once he starts down that Rage path....well it's just gonna Hulk it's way up more and more.Also, it would be foolish to declare a war on Earth-10 with little information and no advisors. Overgirl is currently in a diplomatic role.
Won't someone think of the poor, innocent nazis?It makes sense to kill innocent nazis during an actual conflict, but this has not happened for a while.
Duty calls. The reform of the National Socialist girl is postponed till we find a threat to punch to death."Then doesn't Germania deserve to have you at your-"
My ring blinks.
"-best?" Urgh. "Excuse me."
He never adequately explained how that worked the first time.. hey! He never explained at all!Awwww, they were just about to get to the part where they tell her about the species with the seven sexes!
He never adequately explained how that worked the first time.. hey! He never explained at all!
due to me
Maybe Algelika's ride home is ready?
Lots of authors like to break scenes at dramatic moments because it builds tension and makes people tune in for the next installment. What I think Mr Zoat does well, compared to other fan-fiction authors, is balancing his use of dramatic tension with natural breaks and satisfying conclusions.This is not a criticism, but why oh why do we end on a mysterious note so often.
Birthing gender receives a nearly fertilized egg from oviposition gender, which received it from the combiner gender, which had a threesome with the egg transporting gender and seed transporting gender, who in turn got their cargo from the egg generating gender and seed generating gender, respectively. At each step of the process, genetic data is contributed, until the egg is fully fertile upon the contribution of the birthing gender.He never adequately explained how that worked the first time.. hey! He never explained at all!
Thank you, corrected.
People gonna do what they will, regardless of the law. That's human nature.Angelika looks down at the table, and I slide the drink into her line of sight.
"I think that she likes women."
Mrs Brauer nods. "So: the Nazis control everything and some people are still homosexual."
How naive of her. Forty-something and still has a lot to learn about the world.Angelika looks away, but this bar doesn't leave a lot of places for someone to look where they won't be confronted with gayness. "Yes."
Mrs Brauer frowns. "Did Röhm kill Hitler on your Earth? Or did they just decide that sexual orientation didn't matter?"
Angelika squirms a little at the mention of Röhm. Perhaps she held out some hope that I'd made the man up?
Imagine the scandal. That's the kind of thing that can shake people's beliefs..."No, it matters. Someone found to be behaving in such a way… If they are young, there are corrective measure, but otherwise they would be severely punished or killed."
"You found your version of me with her girlfriend… Did the government decide to keep it quiet?"
"Now I know, and I think that Overman knows. I don't think that anyone else does."
Oh, god. Embarrassment all round. I bet that was awkward as all hell."She can't be that good at hiding it if you walked in on her."
"Kryptonian genetics have given me very good hearing. I was… Investigating a sound I did not recognise."
Dr Kameya covers her mouth with her right fist just in time to muffle her guffaw. Angelika shifts awkwardly in her seat.
Still trying to make ladies pregnant, OL? Wasn't Themyscira enough?Mrs Brauer nods. "We will have to bear in mind how inquisitive children can be if we have children."
I raise my left hand slightly, rings glowing as a pale DNA strand construct appears above it. "I can create a zygote with DNA from two women. If you're ever interested, phone me."
Good to see she's not so blindly loyal to the state. And that she loves her 'aunt'.Mrs Brauer give me a mildly reproachful look, though I think it's due to be interrupting her effort to connect with Angelika than my offer to help her become a mother while in her seventies.
"Are you going to report her?"
Angelika shakes her head. "No. I-. Need to speak to her about it, but I.. cannot report Aunty Gerri."
Gee, who knew? You're human after all."I'm glad for her. But what does that mean for you?"
"It.. means that I am putting my personal relationships ahead of my duty to the state and people."
As I said, the scandal could shatter the 'rightness' of the state."I meant; can you get into trouble for not reporting it?"
"Perhaps. But I doubt it. I have a high enough status that I could simply say that I did not know, and that would be accepted." She shakes her head. "Unless there was video evidence, Aunty Gerri could probably shut down any investigation herself. It might be different if I spoke against her, but she is one of our most revered heroes. Her word would not be doubted lightly."
...Dammit, she was making such progress. Try not to blow a gasket, Maxx..."And how many others do you think there are like her?"
"Ther-." Angelika takes a deep breath. "Few. She is old enough that she was born before the modern social controls became so pervasive. Most people don't even know that some people have such desires. It may be that some are confused as you were, but we can help them develop a healthy sexuality."
What the State decides is 'healthy', of course. By which they mean making lots of babies for the Fuhrer!
I've almost missed that verbal tic.Mrs Brauer takes a moment. "I suppose in a Germany controlled by the Nazis-"
"National Socialists."
She probably can't deny the proof of her eyes. Which is making her wonder what else the State is wrong about..."-it probably is better for their health. Here, I am much happier now that I can express-" She and Dr Kameya make eye contact and clasp hands with a smile. "-my love openly."
Angelika sits back, looking more sad than angry about it.
In other words, she was hoping for some girl talk with Aunty Gerri. Not working out so well..."Why did you want to meet me?"
"I used to feel very self conscious talking about.. some things with Overman. But I could always talk about anything with Aunty Gerri. I thought that.. talking to you might help with coping with all of this. And it hasn't, even a little bit, because you are the worst part of it."
That indoctrination runs deep..."Okay?"
"I understand what Orange Lantern is trying to do; to show me that your civilisation works and is full of normal people who just do things a little bit differently. And you know all sorts of things we culled from our history because they would be a distraction. I've seen things like that before; I know how to ignore them. But I can't ignore you, or what I've learned about Aunty Gerri. And I hate that."
Oof, not being gentle about it, is she?Uh… Oh.
Mrs Bruaer nods sympathetically.
"It's a lot to take in, isn't it? You know your beliefs are nonsense-."
Well, we assume they are. For all we know they're sitting on the watchtower playing canasta until someone comes up with an idea. Or face-punching criminals..."They are not nonsense!"
"But you can't just throw it away, because then what do you do?" And just for a moment she actually looks seventy. "The Justice League is trying to send you home?"
Angelika nods.
Wait, Hitchhikers Guide got written in this universe? I assume that's what it is, from a quick search."I think you should stay here. Until you're sure how you feel about everything."
"How would that help?"
"Because 'why' finds no answer."
She turns to look at me, clearly recognising the quote but not understanding its relevance.
And here's the centre of the conflict, in her mind at least. She's asking herself "Am I a bad person? Are we bad people?" and I don't think she's liking the conclusions she's coming to..."The problem here is not that you need to suppress an inconvenient truth or two in order to let other people carry on doing their job. The problem is that the existence of this society proves that doing that job was unnecessary. With no purges at all two thirds of Germany became one of this Earth's largest economies. So it doesn't matter whether the Jews were trying to undermine German society or not; this Germany did fine without needing to scapegoat anyone. You're a fundamentally rational woman; if you were totally blinded by ideology you'd have attacked me as soon as you found out what this world was like. You're trying to see lies that aren't there behind the curtain that isn't there, and you're becoming increasingly distressed not because you're appalled but because you're not appalled and know that you should be."
So easy to let it slip your mind, isn't it?Mrs Brauer nods. "And that's why you should stay. If you went home now, what would you do?"
"I would be embraced by my friends and team mates, and forget that this happened."
Whatever you feel is right. Not what the State would say, or your peers, but what your heart says is Right."Could you forget it? If nothing else I'm sure that Overman would like to talk to you about it."
Angelika's eyes unfocus slightly, and I don't think it's because she's staring through a wall.
"Yes. I think that he would." A deep breath. "And whatever view I reach, what do you expect me to do?"
Pffft, unlikely. But he had to say it for completeness' sake."You might want to stay here permanently. Or you might want to go home and help your society start to reform."
"Or you'll have your faith in National Socialist restored in full and will be able to go home with your head held high."
A crisis of faith is always stressful. Unless your faith was weak to begin with. She's fighting the indoctrination of her childhood and the pressure of adult peers to look at the other side of things.Dr Kameya gives me a disgruntled glare.
"But from a purely self-interested point of view, surely either outcome would be better than what you're feeling now."
Seriously, whoever this is has the worst timing. Hopefully it's Guy or John calling to alert them to the Bleed aperture opening..."I don't live for myself. I live for Germania."
"Then doesn't Germania deserve to have you at your-"
My ring blinks.
"-best?" Urgh. "Excuse me."
...there are corrective measures, but...
Double space there.
No, it's from Nietzsche's Will to Power. I mean, it might have been in H2G2 as well, but that's not where she's recognising it from.Wait, Hitchhikers Guide got written in this universe? I assume that's what it is, from a quick search.
Thank you, corrected.Corrections:
...there are corrective measures, but...
Double space there.
Given my experience with Neo Nazi's, waving the flag and screaming the mottos is more then enough to do it. Such a fun bunch.
Overgirl still has to kill families of people suspected/confirmed of deviancy decades after their supremacy. If you add her comments from previous chapters, did they actually acheive social unity?This feels like such a railroad to be honest. It feels like Zoat is leaving out aspects of social unity that the Nazi's strove for in favour of his evidence based worldview that... doesn't fit with the Nazi ideals. At all. Like, I'm twisting my head to look at it from the other perspective, and it doesn't look convincing.
It feels like missing the point.
Overgirl still has to kill families of people suspected/confirmed of deviancy decades after their supremacy. If you add her comments from previous chapters, did they actually acheive social unity?
National Socialism
This feels like such a railroad to be honest. It feels like Zoat is leaving out aspects of social unity that the Nazi's strove for in favour of his evidence based worldview that... doesn't fit with the Nazi ideals. At all. Like, I'm twisting my head to look at it from the other perspective, and it doesn't look convincing.
It feels like missing the point.
I think it's only one person complaining about Zoat not being fair to the Notional Socialist, unless I've missed someone.Two updates ago, a bunch of people were complaining that Zoat was being too favourable to the nazi and letting her win arguments. This update, people are complaining that Zoat isn't being fair to the nazi by ignoring the benefits of such a societal structure entirely.
On tonight's episode of "The Author Can't Win".
It works well even if unfortunateI'm going to have to use a very bad example here, but in context it would fit. Sorry about that.
DC's Earth-10 is a bit weird with breeding centers to force procreation but little evidence of children from their most powerful? Zoat's version seems to still have socially existent "genetic inferiors" despite them being killed in facilities and genocides.But on the whole, I would expect them, if they run the right programs and put the effort into it (and since they are, y'know, Nazi's, they probably did) then appart from the small divergences, the society as a whole is probably pretty unified.
Oh, she's gone for 'well-trained house negro'. That's… Disappointing, but at least she doesn't feel obliged to lash out.
This feels like such a railroad to be honest. It feels like Zoat is leaving out aspects of social unity that the Nazi's strove for in favour of his evidence based worldview that... doesn't fit with the Nazi ideals. At all. Like, I'm twisting my head to look at it from the other perspective, and it doesn't look convincing.
It feels like missing the point.
Thank you, corrected.
The sexes are: Greater A, Greater B, Greater C, Lesser A, Lesser B, Lesser C and neutral.I'm assuming that genetically, the 7 sex species work a little like xo, xyy, xxx, or xxy syndrome, except they are far more common and don't result in quite as many cases of infertility. yo might also be viable if neither the x or y chromosome were individually required for survival (in humans, the X chromosome codes for a lot of important things while the Y chromosome is just sort of extra, for lack of a better way to describe it).