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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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I thought Krono's father in law was "Balm-Upon-Wounds", in this timeline?
Is there another "-Upon-Wounds" around, or was the name change a recent enough thing that people are still stuck on his less pleasant past, or...is this an error?
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...Ah, I can see the obvious inspiration for folks like this. I take it their attitude is straight from the Old World Blues mod, and this is kind of the typical response you get if you have anything aligned with you that they don't like...
If they're going for a 'Chi-Roh' symbol, they got the wrong greek character.
Still, it sends a clear message, I suppose.And boy, that name is meaningful for sure. Though I bet it's coincidental in-universe.
The Legion suffering a slow, fighting decline, then. Victory is inevitable, but not imminent.
Downright suspicious, it is. Thankfully they're not expansionist... Yet?
Ah, the kind who takes Bible verse as absolute truth, rather than general guidelines for good living, I take it...
How about 'Thou shall not kill'? I know, it specifically refers to unlawful murder, not general warfare, but that's not a well-known fact.
Kind of hard to turn his brain off, given his enhancements. Or do they have a more specific beef with things he's learned to do since the last episode we saw of him (You know, the whole 'magic' thing.)
In other words, not impious or unholy. Totally reasonable, even, except under the most hardline fundamentalist theology.
Wonder if that's a story we'd ever get, or is it simply too mundane to show...
And in this era, that would have to be something truly spectacularly evil to qualify.
What, trying to frame it as 'part of God's plan' or something similar?
Oh, don't tell me that's a thing now? Good grief.
No, that leads to silliness, and Krono is not a naughty boy.
Oh, I think you might have found a way to make their heads explode in rage.
Ironically, as the result of an alien abduction, I believe. Bit of a laugh riot.
He's not wrong.
And given the Pythons, that was quite impressive to say.
Man, this has become quite important to Krono, hasn't it?
There might be trouble if they try to expand, but that's a future problem.
Old Balm must have made quite the impression in his youth to leave such lingering dislike.
And what area they do control should be more than enough to expand through for a generation or two.
Good, that's not a refusal yet. And if it helps to convince them, I don't think Krono will mind a wet, noisy night.
Hopefully there'll be no unexpected reactions between his FEV-enhanced physique and their 'holy' water.
Now that's an amusing image.
Well, hopefully they can bear to lean on their more peaceful teachings for a bit, at least until things get sorted out. Honestly, if they can be convinced to work nicely with other states, there might be some profit from gaining access to their advanced technology. As long as everyone else can tolerate their rougher edges...
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There's an antagonist in the Honest Hearts DLC from FNV called Salt Upon Wounds. I think he's the leader of the White Legs tribe that you fight in the game.
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And I was under the impression that this was a variant timeline, where he was called Balm-Upon-Wounds instead, hence my confusion.
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He changed it when he was baptised. The people of Heaven's Gate either aren't aware of that or don't consider Mormon baptism valid. Or more likely both.
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Okay, thanks for clarifying.
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So i have no idea how magic works in the Fallout universe, but does Krono not have any issues with the whole "lacking a soul" thing that other Pauls have? Or did something happen that fixed that? Or does Fallout magic not care about souls?
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Fallout magic is pretty much a big ole blank slate that we know nothing about other than that it exists and seems to mostly be tied to Lovecraftian entities.
So
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Thank you, corrected.
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'whose'
This paragraph reads pretty awkwardly to me. Not quite sure how I would fix it.
It's cool to see more of the supernatural side of Fallout, this story has done a bunch of that which I've enjoyed. I can't quite recall, was the demon slaying off-screened? If so that's a shame, it sounds fun.
'will'?
'take'
Amusingly, I have seen it claimed that it was coincidental outside-universe too. Allegedly the guy who came up with the mod's Heaven's Gate had never heard of the real cult.
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Thank you, corrected.
I'm afraid so. It was only fun in the sense that having your arm eaten while you're fully conscious can be considered fun.
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Huh. Was Krono the next vessel chosen to become the Firewalker, then? It's funny since it's pretty obvious that the Odious King is supposed to be the inheritor of the psyker side to Master's FEV plan. He slots in pretty good as a substitute!
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After a... Lengthy discussion with the person who made the Bone Dancer submod, it appears that I read too much into the repeated Twin Peaks references in the Odious King part of the tree.
For Krono, it was more that having direct access to the strange dimensions of the creature allowed him to piggyback on its comprehension to a degree, bypassing the usual 'going totally bonkers' problem of observing extra-dimensional space.
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The F.E.V. gave him strength, toughness, radiation and disease resistance and an extended lifespan. The zetan neurotropic initiator gave him psychic powers. Actual magic -the definition of which he explained a earlier- is a result of his encounter with the Odious King's passenger.
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The Psychic powers he has seem to be more varied then what we have seen from martians. So he has telepathy and telekinesis. But can be do more? I know he might have a form of clairvoyance, he seems to be capable of interfacing with machines? But Is there anything else besides that?
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8th September 2013
18:06 GMT
The High Mor doesn't quite glower at me, but that's because he's got excellent personal discipline. The escorts, similarly, are professional enough to focus on their jobs. The other members of Thanagar's High Council on the other hand are free to be unrestrained in the intensity of their emotions.
Off to the side, Green Lantern Guarn just looks uncomfortable.
The High Mor finishes looking over the document which already bears Hyathis's signature. "Orange Lantern Illustres. I see that 'neutral' was expecting too much."
"'You get to keep what you have now' is pretty neutral. I'm not certain that she would have won without me, but she'd have done a lot of damage."
"Do you understand how badly you're insulting us? Guaranteeing a… Treaty with our oldest enemy?"
"Probably not. I'm not a product of your civilisation, and as such I don't properly appreciate your mindset." I give him a very small smile. "I'm sure that you've read Shayera Thal's report on our 'duel'. Some things you do don't make sense to me, and… I'm sure that the reverse is true. I've… Just stopped caring."
"She will expand."
"Mm." I nod. "But not very far. She's got to occupy three worlds inhabited by people who hate her, and she's not all that far from territory claimed by the Crown Imperium. And with the situation in Vega stabilised, they're going to be looking to expand in the other direction, too."
I sigh, not looking at any of them. Which is probably an insult as well, but at this point, whatever.
"I appreciate that I haven't been clear in my intentions. In… What I want out of this region of space. And the thing is, that wasn't intentional obfuscation on my part. The only thing I really wanted out of Thanagar was to ensure that the Seven Devil cults were destroyed because I do not want to have to fight Onimar Synn. Or the others. And the only thing I wanted out of Alstair was for them to exchange ideas with J. To improve the lives of both their peoples."
I return my full attention to him. "So let me be very clear. I'm a builder and protector. And you people-."
For a moment, our body shimmers orange, flesh vanishing.
For another, we stare down at those tiny figures, their tiny ships and their tiny world around its tiny sun.
And back in the room, the thanagarains looking decidedly off-put.
"Excuse me. The sort of destruction involved in large scale warfare is exactly contrary to how I want the universe to be. It's the sort of thing that I remained involved with the Orange Lantern Corps to stop. So just…" My right arm goes translucent again, and I open and close my right fist until it returns to flesh. "Knock it off. Please. I don't really think I'm being unreasonable here."
"This treaty binds us against taking action against Hyathis. Not against anyone else."
"Yes, and it doesn't bind me at all. I know you're expansionist, and I don't like that, but I've got more important things to deal with. I won't have more important things to deal with forever. In about three Earth years I'll be spending a good deal more time in this region. While I claim no authority to direct you outside of what you're about to sign up to… And this is really more you formally acknowledging that you've received fair warning than anything else. It doesn't bind me at all. You might consider how to engage with your neighbours productively rather than making war on them."
The High Mor looks unimpressed. "Is that all?"
"Yeah. Yeah.. Just… Sign, and I'll get out of your feathers."
[Paul, we have a problem.]
Internal. "Well, yes. Anything in particular?"
[I found out where the Blade of Alstair went.]
Something in the pit of my stomach sinks.
"How bad?"
[I also found out where the lizarkon labourers went.]
In front of me, the High Mor considers the terms again. In effect, they're in force already, but signing shows him accepting their legitimacy. It will also encourage me to leave, and not shoot holes in any of their other ships or kill any more of their admirals.
"Dare I ask?"
Hawkwoman is going to be unhappy. Or perhaps happy, in that I'm acting this overtly. I don't know.
The High Mor turns to Lantern Guarn. "And your position?"
"The Green Lantern Corps is against offensive war. If the Illustres was not here I would be trying to arrange something like this."
His ring would already be searching for a new bearer, he means.
[Conrall.]
The Old Colony with no non-thanagarian population Bleez mentioned.
"And what-? They recruited them?"
[A clear majority of the world's current population hailed Hyathis as their new ruler.]
"Marvellous. Why aren't the thanagarians freaking out?"
[I don't think they know. But it gets better.]
"How?"
[You didn't ask where they put Vulcan's-]
N-oooo.
[-new foundry, did you?]
I call a stellar map to mind as the High Mor girds his loins and puts pen to paper. Conrall is near-ish to the border, but it-.
Three other worlds with low thanagarian populations. Worlds where farming is a struggle for various reasons that Hyathis could easily deal with.
And she got Vulcan. Which means that he's not going to be making Nth metal for them.
…
At… Least the Blades of Alstair can get their ships properly serviced now.
"And that all happened before she signed?"
[As far as I can tell? Yes.]
"Any thoughts?"
The High Mor signs.
[Has he signed?]
"Yes."
[Thank him and leave immediately. If you're not physically present then they'll think things through rather than try to take it out on you.]
Lantern Guarn scans the treaty.
"Chance that they'll buy from Hyathis rather than making a deal with the cultists?"
[Technically, it's not zero.]
"Right."
External.
"Thank you."
I pick up the treaty and leave in haste.
18:06 GMT
The High Mor doesn't quite glower at me, but that's because he's got excellent personal discipline. The escorts, similarly, are professional enough to focus on their jobs. The other members of Thanagar's High Council on the other hand are free to be unrestrained in the intensity of their emotions.
Off to the side, Green Lantern Guarn just looks uncomfortable.
The High Mor finishes looking over the document which already bears Hyathis's signature. "Orange Lantern Illustres. I see that 'neutral' was expecting too much."
"'You get to keep what you have now' is pretty neutral. I'm not certain that she would have won without me, but she'd have done a lot of damage."
"Do you understand how badly you're insulting us? Guaranteeing a… Treaty with our oldest enemy?"
"Probably not. I'm not a product of your civilisation, and as such I don't properly appreciate your mindset." I give him a very small smile. "I'm sure that you've read Shayera Thal's report on our 'duel'. Some things you do don't make sense to me, and… I'm sure that the reverse is true. I've… Just stopped caring."
"She will expand."
"Mm." I nod. "But not very far. She's got to occupy three worlds inhabited by people who hate her, and she's not all that far from territory claimed by the Crown Imperium. And with the situation in Vega stabilised, they're going to be looking to expand in the other direction, too."
I sigh, not looking at any of them. Which is probably an insult as well, but at this point, whatever.
"I appreciate that I haven't been clear in my intentions. In… What I want out of this region of space. And the thing is, that wasn't intentional obfuscation on my part. The only thing I really wanted out of Thanagar was to ensure that the Seven Devil cults were destroyed because I do not want to have to fight Onimar Synn. Or the others. And the only thing I wanted out of Alstair was for them to exchange ideas with J. To improve the lives of both their peoples."
I return my full attention to him. "So let me be very clear. I'm a builder and protector. And you people-."
For a moment, our body shimmers orange, flesh vanishing.
For another, we stare down at those tiny figures, their tiny ships and their tiny world around its tiny sun.
And back in the room, the thanagarains looking decidedly off-put.
"Excuse me. The sort of destruction involved in large scale warfare is exactly contrary to how I want the universe to be. It's the sort of thing that I remained involved with the Orange Lantern Corps to stop. So just…" My right arm goes translucent again, and I open and close my right fist until it returns to flesh. "Knock it off. Please. I don't really think I'm being unreasonable here."
"This treaty binds us against taking action against Hyathis. Not against anyone else."
"Yes, and it doesn't bind me at all. I know you're expansionist, and I don't like that, but I've got more important things to deal with. I won't have more important things to deal with forever. In about three Earth years I'll be spending a good deal more time in this region. While I claim no authority to direct you outside of what you're about to sign up to… And this is really more you formally acknowledging that you've received fair warning than anything else. It doesn't bind me at all. You might consider how to engage with your neighbours productively rather than making war on them."
The High Mor looks unimpressed. "Is that all?"
"Yeah. Yeah.. Just… Sign, and I'll get out of your feathers."
[Paul, we have a problem.]
Internal. "Well, yes. Anything in particular?"
[I found out where the Blade of Alstair went.]
Something in the pit of my stomach sinks.
"How bad?"
[I also found out where the lizarkon labourers went.]
In front of me, the High Mor considers the terms again. In effect, they're in force already, but signing shows him accepting their legitimacy. It will also encourage me to leave, and not shoot holes in any of their other ships or kill any more of their admirals.
"Dare I ask?"
Hawkwoman is going to be unhappy. Or perhaps happy, in that I'm acting this overtly. I don't know.
The High Mor turns to Lantern Guarn. "And your position?"
"The Green Lantern Corps is against offensive war. If the Illustres was not here I would be trying to arrange something like this."
His ring would already be searching for a new bearer, he means.
[Conrall.]
The Old Colony with no non-thanagarian population Bleez mentioned.
"And what-? They recruited them?"
[A clear majority of the world's current population hailed Hyathis as their new ruler.]
"Marvellous. Why aren't the thanagarians freaking out?"
[I don't think they know. But it gets better.]
"How?"
[You didn't ask where they put Vulcan's-]
N-oooo.
[-new foundry, did you?]
I call a stellar map to mind as the High Mor girds his loins and puts pen to paper. Conrall is near-ish to the border, but it-.
Three other worlds with low thanagarian populations. Worlds where farming is a struggle for various reasons that Hyathis could easily deal with.
And she got Vulcan. Which means that he's not going to be making Nth metal for them.
…
At… Least the Blades of Alstair can get their ships properly serviced now.
"And that all happened before she signed?"
[As far as I can tell? Yes.]
"Any thoughts?"
The High Mor signs.
[Has he signed?]
"Yes."
[Thank him and leave immediately. If you're not physically present then they'll think things through rather than try to take it out on you.]
Lantern Guarn scans the treaty.
"Chance that they'll buy from Hyathis rather than making a deal with the cultists?"
[Technically, it's not zero.]
"Right."
External.
"Thank you."
I pick up the treaty and leave in haste.
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Depends on what the plot requires. Probably, but there's only so much time in the day and he's got stuff to do.
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Orange Lantern better not let them get away with this.
Especially since the Lizardos not being citizens of the planet means the "vote" is meaningless.
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And here we see the fallout from the latest round of Snekkening. Snek is more interested in the material universe, and is, like Paul, pissed that the puny organics are breaking her stuff.
And now we also see that Hyathis was, in fact, up to something.
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I can't stop groaning… that's…that's…such a funny and ironic middle finger from the universe to the Thanagarian Government.
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So if I understand correctly...
Hyathis just took over the low population planet by importing a outside population and having the new majority vote to join her.
The planet happens to have the new source of nth metal.
The Empire just signed a treaty that they wouldn't contest stuff she manages to get to join her.
...
Yikes.
Hyathis just took over the low population planet by importing a outside population and having the new majority vote to join her.
The planet happens to have the new source of nth metal.
The Empire just signed a treaty that they wouldn't contest stuff she manages to get to join her.
...
Yikes.
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Why wouldn't he? Blocking it would go against his agreement.
Also who cares that the Lizardkon aren't citizens? Frankly Hyanthis will probably treat them better, and they should get a say in the vote, even if Hyanthis is fudging things by shipping in voters who would obviously vote for her.
The only people getting screwed here are the Thanagarians living on those worlds, and...well I'd say Hyanthis might let them leave but given what the Thanagarian Empire is like they'd probably be imprisoned and interrogated anyway.
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Wonder what Isamot Kol is up too? He was a fun lantern in the comics.
Luckily for them, they're dealing mainly with OL; Best Snek wouldn't hesitate to repaint then orange and remind the toys of their place like she did to Teekl all those chapters ago:
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Hopefully they've already gotten the shouting and ranting out of their systems by now. Having a dozen or more politicians screaming that 'they'll have your head for this' must get boring after a while...
If someone hadn't poked him, he wouldn't have stuck his oar in, you know... If you'd just waited a few days for OL to leave...
It's this or have a lot of your soldiers die fighting a futile war of extermination.
I'm sure by Thanagarian standards he seems quite mad,
So in the end, everyone's going to be looking for ways around OL's treaty, eh? Subordinate nations to fight proxy wars against their main enemies...
Sadly, some idiots just couldn't keep their warmongering to themselves.
And no doubt at least one council member will need a change of pants from this.
Yep. I think they're starting to realise just what they poked, aren't they?
Because if he has to come over here again, they aren't going to enjoy it.
Cooperation is probably still an alien concept to the Thanagarians.
Which are no doubt bristling at the cavalcade of insults today...
Ha, he's been in full armour the whole time? Just for the extra indignity of seeing his faceless helm...
Ah, Hyathis did pull a fast one, then? Is it something he's going to have to respond to?
...Oh, this sounds extra-hilarious for someone.
And really, that can be an appealing thought for them.
If anything, she'd probably have a sensible chuckle at seeing the high command browbeaten like this. She might be a bit wary of shit rolling downhill at her, though.
Depressingly accurate, I suspect. He's certainly not in OL's league, so something like an orbital defence shot would have killed him...
Huh. I wonder just how willing that recruitment was?
So they did it exactly like OL suggested: A 'Majority Vote' by the population.
Maybe the locals really wanted to be under Hyathis' rule again?
Oh, mother-fuuuuu...
So possibly in a position to be isolated within Thanagarian Empire territory? Or enough to create a 'bulge' across the border...
Not unless they're prepared to spend vast amounts of money buying it from Hyathis. Which they wouldn't be. Joy...
You know they're going to think OL and Hyathis set this up.
How fortunate.
Oh, he and his cronies are going to be pissed when they hear this.
Or they'll start working out ways to sidestep his restrictions. Possibly target Earth in retribution...
That's gonna hurt a lot more in the long run, but they won't be thinking like that.
Well, time to get his ass out of dodge before the excrement hits the rotary impeller.
Stepping out for the win in quick getaways.
Oh, this is going to have Consequences, isn't it? Big old capital-C consequences that no-one's going to enjoy when they come to roost. At the very least, the Thanagarian Empire is going to have a nark-on for Earthlings, I suspect, just from association with OL. Hopefully they'll be focused on Hyathis for the foreseeable future, though.
