AngelicKnight.
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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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Lord Ernest
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Glad I'm not the only one who had that as a first thought. I can understand why the Illustres is not suspicious, supposedly this is a secure planet and so his guard is down and besides not actively using his empath abilities the "abbot" has a green core protecting his feelings and thoughts. But still, that guy is suspicious as fuck right now! What with the questions and his reactions!
AngelicKnight.
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He did know what an apple was.
Finagle007
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And the reaction to Kalmin's name. Nobody outside the Green or Orange Lanterns should know that name, counting the Guardians and Controllers. Except Alan and some others on Earth, the only other person who would know Kalmin's name is Sinestro.
AngelicKnight.
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Huh....
Good point.
Well good for him. Clearly he's just retired to a peaceful monastery for the rest of his life. No scheme or ulterior motives there.
BlueMangoAdea
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Have we been reading the same story?
AngelicKnight.
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There was the incident early on with the bikers?
FreeGod
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Remember that OL is living though his whole life. He doesn't have the advantage of only seeing the important bits and therefore get clues about what is important. When he sees a friend coughing he doesn't know that must be plot relevant.
Silverias
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That does the opposite of supporting my remark, but considering his competence AFTER that whole...incident, I think OL would notice SOMETHING is up.
lefthandturnsignal
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I was kinda thinking some other oddball villain than sinestro, but I suppose it makes some amount of sense. Especially with the religious disruption going on with the planet.
Michael Vonica
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To be honest, I never considered that the abbot was anything more than he first appeared to be, but now that I've heard the argument, it makes sense. As for how this could go, I see two ways. First, Paul could see through it all and catch whatever the abbot is planning early. From a character perspective, all this would do is show us that Paul has become more competent, and we've already seen plenty of that. We would also get some interesting plot and fights out of this.
The other option is that Paul is blinded by his own desire to impart his knowledge to others. The abbot then uses this knowledge to do something that hurts many people, and Paul has to clean up his own mess. Paul is then left to contemplate whether or not his current path of being so open about what he knows is right, and to deal with the fear that he may be causing more harm than good, something that he has dealt with before.
The other option is that Paul is blinded by his own desire to impart his knowledge to others. The abbot then uses this knowledge to do something that hurts many people, and Paul has to clean up his own mess. Paul is then left to contemplate whether or not his current path of being so open about what he knows is right, and to deal with the fear that he may be causing more harm than good, something that he has dealt with before.
Dur'id the Druid
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Or a third option, Paul's teaching gets Sin-stro thinking differently, and doing something like learning how to be both a yellow and green lantern.
Michael Vonica
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That's the true ending. I checked the strategy guide, and Paul needs a charisma score of 35 or more to get that option.
Finagle007
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He didn't notice anything was up with the Spider Queen's "spiracles"... Or, less comedically, with Zatanna.
Coda
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Welp. Guess that's a couple hours of time spent binging.
Apparently the correct spelling is "pyrrhicly". This looks weird to me and I would have guessed "pyrrhically".
Chojin Patriarch
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Oh, boy. That MMO grind still making me miss updates, even after it's lessened.
... Abbot SUS.Seriously, how did he...
...Plausible. But I'm watching you, buster.
What, they're tasty.
Man, humans suck.
Well, if the suspicions are true, this puts the whole visit in an interesting new light. If not, then the abbot is clearly very interested in learning about the foes of the Corps for the sake of his future students. Either way, he's getting to learn a lot. Let's hope OL isn't fooled either way.
Corrections, Mr Zoat!
Ah, the sweet reminder of differences in ecology. Wonder if this is a staple, or some luxury treat the monastery got in for their guests? At least there's no worry of poison or anything like that. Not with a power ring.
Dinner with their host? Or judging by the content, breakfast? I'm surprised the ring hasn't pinged local time.
I know that feel. Some things just feel wrong, whether a paper straw on the lips, or an unfamiliar snack on the tongue...
Well, taste is whatever you ultimately want it to be. I can appreciate the desire to experience new things.
After all, who know what effect it'll have on your digestive system. I remember in GRRL Power, where the spice-loving main character eats a bowl of super-spicy alien food, and it comes out hotter than it went in. And glowed.
Come now, OL. Do you really think the abbot of a space monastery on an alien world would...
... Abbot SUS.Seriously, how did he... ...Plausible. But I'm watching you, buster.Does that mean Wally fixed his dietary issues at some point? That should have warranted some comment before now... Or is he just being childish? ...I mean, I still prefer Rice Bubbles to most other cereals...
What, they're tasty.'Engaged' is one way to put it. No comment about Onik, or did he expect the abbot to simply assume 'oh, he's doing well.'
I wonder how many Guy's succeeding at, too. I bet their next sparring session will be a lot more lively.
To a Lanternist, that would basically be the equivalent of becoming a divine Prophet or messiah figure... To someone else, it would be well... Bad news.
"Because if so, that's going to have so many knock-on effects amongst my faith..."
To be fair, his previous faith left a lot to be desired after the Silver City practically blockaded Earth in pursuit of OL...
Because of course you would. I hope you plan to change it back when you leave?
Well, that's surprisingly respectful. Any Earth culture in this situation would have paparazzi hanging from the treetops trying to get pictures and religious zealots banging on the doors, whether to insist on greeting them or to condemn them for heresy...
Man, humans suck.Oddly specific question... OL's met more than one, though. Indeed, he's met many different colours, mostly himself.
...I repeat, Abbot SUS. And I can't imagine OL missed that, either. Whether he has his own suspicions as to its meaning, we won't know unless it pops up in his thoughts.
Because the Guardians hate the idea of anyone knowing about other Lights? I'm honestly amazed Sinestro ever found out about the yellow, to some degree. Probably because of the Weaponers.
...Looking for some hints? If the thread guesses are right, you should know quite well how Sinestro uses his ring...
Given the Capo had decades of experience, and plenty of opportunities to keep his hand in compared to Alan-16? That would be a bad idea.
Yeah, not a lot of good options on that little trip. Sometimes, you just can't win in a heroic way.
That's Lord Protector Paul, or Yaul, as some of us took to calling him. Stuck in the Thundercats-remake universe of Third Earth, with only a mystical Sword of fear-magic to charge from. Needs must. I bet OL's been honestly impressed at some of the options his alternates took.
Because one of the bottlenecks of a Yellow Lantern Corps' production line would be rings and personal lanterns.
Well, if the suspicions are true, this puts the whole visit in an interesting new light. If not, then the abbot is clearly very interested in learning about the foes of the Corps for the sake of his future students. Either way, he's getting to learn a lot. Let's hope OL isn't fooled either way.
Corrections, Mr Zoat!
...and put it into my mouth.
But there's no real link between my health and my diet.
Seconding Coda's correction for this, it just don't look right.
DrThoth
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In addition to the examples mentioned above (Spider Queen and Zatanna, though with Zatanna I think it was more just conscious ignorance and avoidance), you have the incredibly cunning plan that Olympia (Crime Syndicate Wonder Woman) used to manipulate Paragon into being transported into the parallel universe, which was "show up looking like Wonder Woman and order him to do it in a way that didn't seem quite right according to her personality- this in a world where shapeshifting and mind control are possibilities and the latter actually did happen to WW". There's also the incident with that guy with the villainous version of the Hero Dial, who was just casually brushing the dust off and putting it on in another room while Paragon was being the polite Britisher and just waiting at the desk or something.
His situational awareness and competence kind of vary depending on the plot (and/or how funny it is).
I don't necessarily believe that the abbot here is Sinestro, though there are some interesting/convincing points being made that he is, but 'Paragon would have spotted it' isn't the best refutation of that idea sadly.
Darko
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I bet, seeing as he's probably an equivalent to a saint.
I think Zoat once mentioned that the Guardians there went crazy and Krona killed them to protect the universe before he killed himself since he didn't trust himself with that kind of power.
Thet may also not want to deal with multiple universes.
I remember in Assimilation Stewart said they didn't want to try dealing with multiple universe, so it may be the difficult to send the SI back to his universe.
Yeah, Paul can be incredibly dense at times.
Ahh, the gun incident.
Or he may be working for him.
Darko
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Does that mean Wally fixed his dietary issues at some point? That should have warranted some comment before now... Or is he just being childish? ...I mean, I still prefer Rice Bubbles to most other cereals...
I think Zoat once mentioned that he developed a potion that he drinks to stop him from needing to eat so much.
If they're a bad guy.
If they were a good guy then that means they now have a more powerful ally.
Yes, yes we do.
He was a high ranking member of the Corps, so he may have had access to sensitive info.
Unless Paul went the Ophidian route.
He now does have a Lantern equivalent.
Though some may be somewhat disappointing.
I think he was a bit conflicted with Sybarite.
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He knew Zatanna was in love with him, he could see the violet light.
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On the one hand, yes. On the other, the arc title is Malediction.
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While the arguments are convincing that the abbot may not be what he seems, their are some other things that come to mind with this line of thinking.
Comic Book Sinestro kept an eye on his home world, and his daughter, despite the best efforts to keep him away. He snuck in just fine, past sensors and other GL's any time he wanted to. And he marked his daughter with a locator so he could always find her again.
Comic Book Sinestro, after creating the yellow lantern corps, stated he never really wanted it. He just wanted it to force the Guardians to take the kid gloves off the Green Lantern Corps, and allow for lethal force to be used. Once the war with the corps was over and he was 'vindicated' by the policy change, he was happy that he accomplished his mission. The corps itself was only the means to that end. At that time at least, the follow up war of light, and his brief return to the GLC was not likely planned.
Now, in WTR, Sinestro knows that the Orange Lantern Corps exists from his conversation with Vril Dox. It's Possible, though not confirmed, that he knows his daughter is a member due to his comic book version keeping tabs on her. He's been quiet in the galaxy of late for several earth years, since he and Hal last fought.
If anyone knew ways around a Lantern Scan, it'd be the former First Lantern. And the current location is a pretty good place for someone with Sinestro's *Academic* background to study the GL from a safe distance, as well as the Spectrum itself.
Now all that being said, there are other emotional factions running around that could be invested in keeping an eye on the place...the Zamzaons and whom ever is running the compassion corps, Zamazons might know the name of a weaponeer, but other factions don't have Mathusian's behind them as far as we know.
If it is Sinestro, and he's picking OL's brains on methods to make Lantern's to start his own corps...could be risky. But, if it's a Lantern Corps that is free to kill and mind control, not restrained by Guardian Morals, maybe he'd just decide to Join the OLC instead (he doesn't know the weaponeer's a member..unless that's in Paul's book somewhere).
If it's someone else.......say ...Atrositus with some blood magic shape shifting or something, and looking to start a Red Lantern corps....things could be VERY interesting.
Comic Book Sinestro kept an eye on his home world, and his daughter, despite the best efforts to keep him away. He snuck in just fine, past sensors and other GL's any time he wanted to. And he marked his daughter with a locator so he could always find her again.
Comic Book Sinestro, after creating the yellow lantern corps, stated he never really wanted it. He just wanted it to force the Guardians to take the kid gloves off the Green Lantern Corps, and allow for lethal force to be used. Once the war with the corps was over and he was 'vindicated' by the policy change, he was happy that he accomplished his mission. The corps itself was only the means to that end. At that time at least, the follow up war of light, and his brief return to the GLC was not likely planned.
Now, in WTR, Sinestro knows that the Orange Lantern Corps exists from his conversation with Vril Dox. It's Possible, though not confirmed, that he knows his daughter is a member due to his comic book version keeping tabs on her. He's been quiet in the galaxy of late for several earth years, since he and Hal last fought.
If anyone knew ways around a Lantern Scan, it'd be the former First Lantern. And the current location is a pretty good place for someone with Sinestro's *Academic* background to study the GL from a safe distance, as well as the Spectrum itself.
Now all that being said, there are other emotional factions running around that could be invested in keeping an eye on the place...the Zamzaons and whom ever is running the compassion corps, Zamazons might know the name of a weaponeer, but other factions don't have Mathusian's behind them as far as we know.
If it is Sinestro, and he's picking OL's brains on methods to make Lantern's to start his own corps...could be risky. But, if it's a Lantern Corps that is free to kill and mind control, not restrained by Guardian Morals, maybe he'd just decide to Join the OLC instead (he doesn't know the weaponeer's a member..unless that's in Paul's book somewhere).
If it's someone else.......say ...Atrositus with some blood magic shape shifting or something, and looking to start a Red Lantern corps....things could be VERY interesting.
Sockmonkey
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It would be interesting to see some character development for Sinestro.
Darko
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I think Zoat mentioned Atrocitus would get free at Year 6.
This could be Sinestro trying to corrupt a recruitment center for Green Lanterns, or he may be trying to get his own agents in the GLC.
There are some Satanistic religions that view Lucifer as being the good guy that tried to bring knowledge and enlightenment to humanity, so there may be some Karaxians that think Sinestro was trying to bring order to a chaotic situation and was justified in his actions, so they will follow him.
The abbot may either be Sinestro in disguise, and he can hide his emotions due to having a great mastery over his emotions, or it could be that the abbot is working for Sinestro and due to his own emotional mastery he's also able to hide his emotional state.
Paul also may not have looked all that hard since nothing really seemed suspicious.
Now I'm wondering if Oniks reaction was due to him potentially figuring out that something like this is happening.
moralrelativity
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Really? I kinda see obliviousness as one of OL's defining characteristics. Sure, he's got a bit better at reading others, but I don't think he's got a clue about Sinestro right now.
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I knew it wasn't right, but I couldn't find the correct version so I just assumed that it wasn't common enough to have one. I think I'll go for the second spelling in the name of regularity.
The healing potion?Does that mean Wally fixed his dietary issues at some point? That should have warranted some comment before now... Or is he just being childish? ...I mean, I still prefer Rice Bubbles to most other cereals...
Not all culture flows immediately from biology.Well, that's surprisingly respectful. Any Earth culture in this situation would have paparazzi hanging from the treetops trying to get pictures and religious zealots banging on the doors, whether to insist on greeting them or to condemn them for heresy...
Thank you, corrected.
How now is 'now'? Because the Worm bit hasn't happened yet in linear time.
Handlewithcare
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Hm. Assuming the Abbott is the Abbott his almost-none reaction to the news of an Ion Host would be weird af.