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Theo Anders and the Black Exaltation[Worm/Exalted][Hiatus]

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skaro said:
Yeah,that too but atleast we are not bigot,we are just greedy bussiness man.

I think historical context is also prove that bigot don't paid well like cheap labour,Many coperation usually found their factory on third world country and paid with lower wage.The worker complain about their wage and breaking back work hour but they hate to not have job more.As long as they paid on time and don't cheat then everything will be fine.
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No.
I mean in the Greedy Exploitative business men are hated as much Bigot,or japanese or italians if they're doing as much pain.
Biigoh said:
Here's the thing, Nazism is basically "National Socialism" in short. People like to use the word Nazi as if it is pure evil. It is not.

It is people that are evil, not political ideology.



Ideologies when taken to extremes, that is when people suffer. It doesn't matter which ideology is taken to extremes, it's all ideology.

But it takes more than one person to take an ideology or a government to extremes. It is the people who follow along, for the sake of safety, for the security of their homeland, for the protection of jobs and traditional values, who don't stop to ask... is this the right thing. Or go we were just following orders. That is what drives an ideology or a nation to extremes.

Hitler, when you get down to it, was just a man with a talent for public speaking, who at the right time, the right place, and in the right environment, convince the people around him that they should follow him. That he would right the wrongs done to them, that he would fix the economy, that he would bring back the pride and honor that they had.

And when he got into power, he was successful enough that they kept following him even as he started to go to the extremes.

So, in and of itself, Nazism is not evil or bad. Much like capitalism in and of itself is not evil or bad or good.
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That sound really agreable. It sounded really agreeable to america too. Before the whole kill camp thing.
 
Larekko12 said:
That sound really agreable. It sounded really agreeable to america too. Before the whole kill camp thing.
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America is build upon the burial grounds of dead natives (bullets, poison, plague all helpfully given to them by the people who would cover the continent and replace them). The descendents of those who survived live in reservations. Genocide is not something new.

You might wish to read up on the "trail of tears".
 
Biigoh said:
Here's the thing, Nazism is basically "National Socialism" in short. People like to use the word Nazi as if it is pure evil. It is not.

It is people that are evil, not political ideology.



Ideologies when taken to extremes, that is when people suffer. It doesn't matter which ideology is taken to extremes, it's all ideology.

But it takes more than one person to take an ideology or a government to extremes. It is the people who follow along, for the sake of safety, for the security of their homeland, for the protection of jobs and traditional values, who don't stop to ask... is this the right thing. Or go we were just following orders. That is what drives an ideology or a nation to extremes.

Hitler, when you get down to it, was just a man with a talent for public speaking, who at the right time, the right place, and in the right environment, convince the people around him that they should follow him. That he would right the wrongs done to them, that he would fix the economy, that he would bring back the pride and honor that they had.

And when he got into power, he was successful enough that they kept following him even as he started to go to the extremes.

So, in and of itself, Nazism is not evil or bad. Much like capitalism in and of itself is not evil or bad or good.
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Yes,but I try not to talk about that with westerner that have history with Nazi.:) [My professor who want to do thesis about constitution law in Nazi era need to change his subject when he study in France].If it's between us[Singapore&Thailand] then that should be fine.
Socialism and communism have a bad name in my country more than Nazism because they try to abolish royal family,Communism is boogey man for us.

I think Hitler try to united his country but need some scape goat to rally people and the rest is tragedy.
A few week ago,some television talk about Hitler in thai advertisement but we already have the book and cartoon about history of hitler and ww2,but the author of cartoon write hitler in more sympathy light than western adaption.
 
Larekko12 said:
No.
I mean in the Greedy Exploitative business men are hated as much Bigot,or japanese or italians if they're doing as much pain.

That sound really agreable. It sounded really agreeable to america too. Before the whole kill camp thing.
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Told that to Geroge Soros or BP oil,they made a mess for foreign country but still do charity and have some good name in USA.

Err,I think america getting upset with pearl harbour incident,they still happily to sold weapon to join the war before that.
 
Biigoh said:
Here's the thing, Nazism is basically "National Socialism" in short.
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As a socialist IRL, no. Absolutely not. Do not ever perpetuate this. It's about as true a statement as "North Korea is a democratic republic of the people." Socialists, union members, and communists were the very first groups that the groups that coalesced into the Nazi Party targeted, years before Jews and Roma and liberals and non-heterosexuals were ever involved. (There is a lot of bad blood here, obviously.)

The only difference between Nazism and regular fascism is the nationalist-racialist element. If the state openly allies with the upper/capital-owning class against the lower/working class, that's economic fascism. Cultural progressivism and economic fascism are not inherently opposed - see: large segments of my country's pathetic excuse for a mainstream left-wing party - but that combination is much rarer than the triple-alliance between state, capital, and (nation or tradition) that true Nazism takes to the extreme.
 
[X] Disbelief - "No way, why didn't you say something before if that was true?"
 
Current tally

Vote Tally : Theo Anders and the Black Exaltation[Worm/Exalted] | Page 30 | Questionable Questing
##### NetTally 1.1.6
[X] Plan Bii
No. of Votes: 7
Biigoh
dasstan
Lon
Marthis
NoSoulNoRegrets
SerbobIV
Snake/Eater

[X] Sabah, has opted to go for stylish and elegant coat, white lacy blouse, and pants that matched her coat in a way that harkens back to an elegant noble lord. Very stylish, if "manly", that was also feminine at the same time.
No. of Votes: 3 Counted in Plan Bii
Biigoh
dasstan
NoSoulNoRegrets

[X] Agreement - "That's... rather close to what I was thinking. Minus hormones. Even so, why didn't you say so before?"
No. of Votes: 3 Counted in Plan Bii
Biigoh
dasstan
NoSoulNoRegrets

[X] Purchase:
-[X] Scathing Cynic Attitude(Mirror: Sagacious Reading of Intent) (8 XP)
No. of Votes: 6
Biigoh Counted in Plan Bii
1986ctcel
Anasurimbor
dasstan Counted in Plan Bii
NoSoulNoRegrets Counted in Plan Bii
SwiftRosenthal

[X] Disbelief - "No way, why didn't you say something before if that was true?"
No. of Votes: 4
Anasurimbor
1986ctcel
Fishyface
SwiftRosenthal

[X] Disbelief - "No way, why didn't you say something before if that was true?"
-[X] "Oh My, it's only about the power and not the ideology! I am completely shocked by this revelation, because I am a complete idiot. I'd have never thought of you as power hungry, cause it's not like I've spend five minutes in your company. The question here is why you try to form an emotional bond to me by *airquotes* "letting me see behind the Mask" only now, after I've triggered, when my trigger was more or less inevitable. I mean, as my father you could have gotten it for free if you started a little sooner." If he tells you about how you've changed after triggering, how you've gotten more confident or something like that, answer: "No, I've not. It's just that I'm pretty now, so when I'm confident people see me being confident instead of thinking I'm posturing. I'm the same person, it's just that I now look the part."
No. of Votes: 1
theonebutcher

[X] Agreement - "That's... rather close to what I was thinking. Minus hormones."
-[X] Think quietly to self: "Huh. My old man is pretty understanding and gracious, for a murderous bastard. It's going to be more difficult to end him than I had previously expected."
No. of Votes: 1
evildice

[X] Bank and putz around
No. of Votes: 1
evildice

[X] At the party, treat Sabah like a friend: close, not cordial; familiar, but not flirty.
No. of Votes: 1
evildice

Total No. of Voters: 13
 
[X] Disbelief - "No way, why didn't you say something before if that was true?"

[X] Purchase:
-[X] Scathing Cynic Attitude(Mirror: Sagacious Reading of Intent) (8 XP)

Going to withhold my vote for dress because I don't like Bii's dress (Actually I do like it, I'm just not convinced if it is the best dress to impress a bunch of teenage girls attending the party and other socialites) yet I don't have any better ideas. QQ is apparently not the forum to go for advice on woman's dresses, who knew?
I'm not 100% sure on what we are reacting to (Kaiser's ideals that power is all that's important or that he thinks we were about to do a power play), but acting like an idiot either way may get him to underestimate us.
I have to wonder how we are going to train a Cynic attitude in 5 hours. Watch the News, I guess? We do live in Earth Bet after all.

Quick question Skitzyfrenic: When will we be able to write stunts for extra dice? Until now all we've done is sub-votes for extra flavor.
 
Biofan09 If a stunt is written, noted as a stunt, and wins the vote, yes.

As to Sabah's dress, if you want to go the dress route, she likes European styles, which is why Parian's costume is the way it is. There's a lot of traditional dress that can be tweaked and made more modern.

Greek, French, German, Italian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Danish. And that's not counting all the different time periods.

Then we have more modern fashions right out. Modern Formal, Modern Cocktail, Modern Party, Bunch of Red Carpet stuff.

I am in no way asking you to draw up a dress/outfit (unless you want to). You can pick a picture from anywhere (as long as SFW) and use that.
 
Soooo do we plan on attempting to seduce Sabah during the (business) date or just make sure she has a good enough time for a continued friendship/business partnership?
 
Anasurimbor said:
To be honest, I hadn't really distinguished between a stunt and a sub-vote.
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Some of the sub-votes are kinda clearly stunts cause a lot of stuff goes into them. But most times it reads to me as an extension of the vote (that handles how the vote is approached), and not an extension that (handles how the vote is handled and) adds flavor, if that makes sense. theonebutcher 's sub-vote this round would be pushing into a 1-die stunt because air quotes and there's a lot of attitude to it. (Attitude aimed at the guy who killed you at the start of the story.)

It also harder for me to go 'thats a stunt' in a social context, never been too good at that.
 
1986ctcel said:
Soooo do we plan on attempting to seduce Sabah during the (business) date or just make sure she has a good enough time for a continued friendship/business partnership?
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Probably the latter. Girl has already set her boundaries and pushing them might be a bit too close to her trigger trauma. Best to be just friends/business partners for now and see where it goes.
 
IMHO the best harem plan is to NOT seduce any of the girls actively.

Make them all ache for us, and then leave it up to them to come up with a solution.

We can fuck a girl if she asks nicely, but the highest level of commitment we ought to offer is "friends with benefits", and we ought to make that clear up-front before we do anything.
 
evildice said:
IMHO the best harem plan is to NOT seduce any of the girls actively.

Make them all ache for us, and then leave it up to them to come up with a solution.

We can fuck a girl if she asks nicely, but the highest level of commitment we ought to offer is "friends with benefits", and we ought to make that clear up-front before we do anything.
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Idea: Train up a Presence (Seduction) specialty or Irresistable Succubus Style, use it all the time on actual and potential harem members ... and then refuse their overtures for as long as possible until one of them can no longer take it and just about jumps Theo in desperation.

TDP = Teasing 'dem Princesses
 
Party Attendees List.

Firstly, this list is not all inclusive. There will be other people around. Most of them OCs

People TDP would recognize:

The Mayor and nuclear family, includes Rory (Triumph)
New Wave (Will include Panacea) in costume themed outfits but not actually in costume.
The Stansfields (Including Dean as Dean)
Thomas Calvert, PRT consultant from Fortress Construction
Assistant Director Renick, PRT ENE and a few other PRT officials
Armsmaster He never stays very long at these things, always finds an excuse to leave within an hour. No one is really sure if the excuses are valid or not
Velocity
Dauntless
Vista
Aegis
Kid Win
Shadow Stalker She's only here because Emma is, and because she's on shit PR duty for tugging at her probation leash
A couple of the families in Theo's circle (OCs)
His father, Max
His cousins, Jessica and Nessa
Aaron Oelschlager (Victor) and his fiance Ophelia Herren (Othala)
A few other E88 aligned families (OCs)
A few of the Stansfield aligned families (OCs)

People who you would recognize but TDP doesn't know (yet):
The Barnes Family

There are going to be several (read a bunch) other families and business owners. This is a party that is 'non-political' and 'simply' a 'celebration of BB's community,' but most of the people are well-off.
 
[X]Sabah'a dress
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[X] Agreement - "That's... rather close to what I was thinking. Minus hormones. Even so, why didn't you say so before?"
[X] Purchase:
-[X] Scathing Cynic Attitude(Mirror: Sagacious Reading of Intent) (8 XP)
 
For the sake of variety, if nothing else, have another option for an outfit:
[X] The dress Sabah has chosen is a slim and very elegant black dress.
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Because IMO a proper dress will impress high society teenage girls more than a cool blouse and coat. Plus it reminds me of Alchemical!Weaver's dress, apart from being less revealing since this is a teenage girl, and with less spider imagery.
Pre-post Edit: Imped by Larekko
 
[X] Plan Bii


About slavery and racism,I see racism as tactic to keep status quo and current system,like caste system that need outcaste people to put the blame on.

But enough with political debate focus on Theo instead.
 
Planning on closing the vote tonight before sleepy time. Update should be incoming tomorrow after werk.
 
Final Vote.

Vote Tally : Theo Anders and the Black Exaltation[Worm/Exalted] | Page 30 | Questionable Questing
##### NetTally 1.1.6
[X] Plan Bii
No. of Votes: 7
Biigoh
dasstan
Lon
NoSoulNoRegrets
SerbobIV
skaro
Snake/Eater

[X] Plan Larekko12
No. of Votes: 1
Marthis

[X] Sabah, has opted to go for stylish and elegant coat, white lacy blouse, and pants that matched her coat in a way that harkens back to an elegant noble lord. Very stylish, if "manly", that was also feminine at the same time.
No. of Votes: 3
Biigoh*
dasstan*
NoSoulNoRegrets*

[X]Sabah'a dress
No. of Votes: 1
Larekko12**

[X] Agreement - "That's... rather close to what I was thinking. Minus hormones. Even so, why didn't you say so before?"
No. of Votes: 4
Biigoh*
dasstan*
Larekko12**
NoSoulNoRegrets*

[X] Purchase:
-[X] Scathing Cynic Attitude(Mirror: Sagacious Reading of Intent) (8 XP)
No. of Votes: 7 +1
Biigoh*
1986ctcel
Anasurimbor
dasstan*
Larekko12**
NoSoulNoRegrets*
SwiftRosenthal
Biofan09

[X] Disbelief - "No way, why didn't you say something before if that was true?"
No. of Votes: 4 +1
Anasurimbor
1986ctcel
Fishyface
SwiftRosenthal
Biofan09

[X] Disbelief - "No way, why didn't you say something before if that was true?"
-[X] Stunt: "Oh My, it's only about the power and not the ideology! I am completely shocked by this revelation, because I am a complete idiot. I'd have never thought of you as power hungry, cause it's not like I've spend five minutes in your company. The question here is why you try to form an emotional bond to me by *airquotes* "letting me see behind the Mask" only now, after I've triggered, when my trigger was more or less inevitable. I mean, as my father you could have gotten it for free if you started a little sooner." If he tells you about how you've changed after triggering, how you've gotten more confident or something like that, answer: "No, I've not. It's just that I'm pretty now, so when I'm confident people see me being confident instead of thinking I'm posturing. I'm the same person, it's just that I now look the part."
No. of Votes: 1
theonebutcher

[X] Agreement - "That's... rather close to what I was thinking. Minus hormones."
-[X] Think quietly to self: "Huh. My old man is pretty understanding and gracious, for a murderous bastard. It's going to be more difficult to end him than I had previously expected."
No. of Votes: 1
evildice

[X] Bank and putz around
No. of Votes: 1
evildice

[X] At the party, treat Sabah like a friend: close, not cordial; familiar, but not flirty. Not voted for this round, will be coming up soon though.
No. of Votes: 1
evildice

[X] The dress Sabah has chosen is a slim and very elegant black dress.
No. of Votes: 1
Biofan09

Total No. of Voters: 16

*Counted in Plan Bii
** Counted in Plan Larekko

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With a white blouse where her belly button is, that's what Sabah will be wearing. TDP will agree with Max, that it's about power not race, but will be asking why Max never said anything before. He will also be training (and purchasing) Scathing Cynic Attitude.

Scathing Cynic Attitude
Cost: 3m; Mins: Linguistics 1, Essence 1; Type: Reflexive
(Step 2)
Keywords: Combo-OK, Mirror (Sagacious Reading of Intent;
Exalted, p. 233), Social
Duration: Instant
Prerequisite Charms: None

Constantly surrounded by the overwrought melodramas of
the restless dead and jaded by the lies within lies of their Deathlord
masters, Abyssals become exceedingly difficult to trick.

Relevant Mirror Text

This Charm identifies
the motivation behind a given statement that the Exalt reads
or hears—a one-sentence summary of what the person making
that statement hopes to gain. If the Exalt invokes this Charm
to defend against a social attack and the attacker's purpose is
fundamentally hostile to the Exalt or the Exalt's Motivation,
this Charm perfectly negates the attack.

The snip coming up will be the conclusion of the conversation TDP and Max are having, a brief summary of how TDP is going to train reading between the words of others to figure out what they want from him in that instance(as it turns out, that was how I had been treating Exquisite Etiquette Style. Though it reads as everyone in a group instead of singular, plus makes you EXTRA handsome (6 App instead of 5 App, he's so fucking handsome he's literally superhumanly handsome) and treat groups as one size smaller) and offers a perfect social negation. And then arriving at the party and meeting up with Sabah. (Where we will vote on how we actually treat Sabah during the date, and mark our first target for whatever people vote for in the subvote)

All in all it should be a pretty short snip, and then we get into the first major event. (Which should be long enough to count towards another charm or something requiring a day's worth of training, keep that in mind)

I would appreciate some chatter/discussion about how all of you are planning to handle the party.
 
So... how about that chatter/discussion about the handling of the party?

Regarding Sabah: I'd say evildice's vote (At the party, treat Sabah like a friend: close, not cordial; familiar, but not flirty) pretty much sums up how we should behave. Friendly enough to establish a positive relationship but not enough to make her uncomfortable.

Our first target is probably going to be Amy. Since the current harem plan (Which I wholeheartedly approve of) calls for no outright seduction, we want to be just flirty enough to get her attention.

Since she is our "first" target that implies we will have time to catch the attention of other girls. Personally, I want to hit a bit on Emma (because hot redhead) and maybe Victoria and Sophia but I acknowledge there might be more important targets attending. We should also check on Sabah every now and the to see if she is doing alright.

Finally, we might want to prepare an excuse as to how we got a makeover. Extremely good diet and exercise? Tons of plastic surgery? You know someone is going to ask.
 
There is always the standby "you'd be surprised what money can buy," and then refuse to talk about what exactly caused it. I mean TDP changed really rapidly. you wouldn't even have time for the surgical scars to heal if we got plastic surgery.

I agree with how we treat Sabah. With the limits we set, we shouldn't do anything flirty unless she initiates. Wouldn't want to break our word.

Amy is best girl. We could probably talk circles around her without needing any charms, But we really should focus on making her comfortable in our presence, and show interest in her and not Panacea.

We loose nothing by playing the "gentleman caller" with the aforementioned girls. Show them that we're new, improved and glorious.
 
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