Khornelius
Overlord of the Underworld
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I've never heard this idiom before. At least not from my family, but it makes a lot of sense though.
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Yes, yes. He already has the frequent mortality discount card with the Grim Reaper. What the freebie is is best left to the imagination...8th August 2012
09:31 GMT
"We… Had.. reports.. that you had died."
Maybe if you weren't so passively scary and strange, people might not spread word that you are. But no, you come back from the dead, leave bizarre social impressions and casually flit about the galaxy. It's hard for people to not hear weird rumours...The gyuanite diplomatic attaché looks at me nervously. I suppose that from his point of view I'm a combination president/pope/anti-matter bomb, but I'm not really used to being treated in that way. Other Orange Lanterns being deferential, sure. I'm their superior, and the master of a skill they are learning. My fellow superheroes on Earth are people I've worked with or actual friends. This is strange and I'm not sure that I like it.
"Oh? How?"
Indeed, would the Reach allow word to spread that they used a substance as strange and dangerous as Qwa-Matter? Or are they simply claiming he was killed by an anti-matter bomb or something?"We.. are not a party to your war with the Reach, but we do try to maintain a degree of awareness of its course. We have no desire to send merchant convoys into systems in dispute."
"No, I meant, how am I supposed to have died?"
OL, not making your reputation any less strange here."I… I doubt that it matters; you're clearly alive."
"Alive now. I've died twice before."
So close, yet so far. I mean, it's hardly an uncommon technique at higher levels of technology."Oh? Oh." The attaché calms down noticeably. "Mind recordings dubbed onto a cloned body? We're aware of some societies using that technique. I always thought that it would promote stagnation, but I suppose that the loss of a vital individual during a war would be damaging enough that it would be worth doing it anyway."
I shake my head.
Fascinating colour displays. Green for.. nervousness? Purple for confusion... Quite the unusual physiology..."I'm familiar with the technique. There's a Terminan lawyer on my homeworld, and his people clone anyone who dies of unnatural causes. But no. I can encode my consciousness on my soul. All I need is either a supporting medium or a host body and I'm fine. Organic death just isn't that big a deal for me."
His face goes slightly purple. Worried confusion.
That being the thing that gets scanned and cloned via the aforementioned mind uploads. With you so far."I don't.. think I understand..?"
"A humanoid's consciousness lies it the electrical potentials of their neural network, right?"
Though how you'd recreate such from physical scans might be an issue."That's-. That sounds like an oversimplification, but… Yes, I understand what you mean."
"But there's nothing inherently special about electrical potentials, is there? There are few species with purely chemical neural networks, a few with exotic energy networks…"
...Oh, boy. That's a big trick. In theory, if you could work the same change on Construct Lanterns...I pull back, reducing the importance of my physical form and increasing my presence in the orange light. It's a little like when the Ophidian and I switched from my human body to her snake body when we were joined, though I'm still myself. I look down at my translucent form, and then up at the attaché.
"See? I can transubstantiate at will."
I'd say he looks like he's seen a ghost?I shift back into the material as the attaché-.
"Are you alright?"
Ah, OL. That pleasant obliviousness still gets a laugh now and again."Ah-. Ah-. A-."
"Do you require medical attention? If you can't speak, just want it and I'll-."
To be fair, do the Gyuanites get any Lantern visitors? Being on the Reach periphery, they'd likely be under GLC jurisdiction until they actually join the Reach... Do the local Sector Lanterns simply not come here?"Nono, that's fine! Um. Please remain mundane while you are visiting our world."
"Alright. I mean, subject to normal self-defence exemptions, sure. Is there some sort of cultural sensitivity I should know about? Because I've been reading your tourist information brochure and I didn't see anything..?"
Ah, Any Lantern visits would usually be police pursuits, I guess. And 'confusion'? Quite the understatement, I think..."People think of Lantern constructs as something they attack with. If people saw you like that it might inadvertently cause.. confusion."
"Oh." I nod. "I suppose that makes sense. Now, about me meeting with officials in your government?"
Not that you'd be drinking local water anyway. I mean, even if the ring cleaned out any local infections... There'd probably still be a hint of taste in there..."Yes, several officials are clearing their schedules and we should be able to have a preliminary meeting with you a little while after you arrive. You.. are.. aware that there is a Reach trade mission on Yuna?"
"I was planning on boiling the water anyway."
Goes a bit past implying when you have to say it outright. Joy of having to explain the joke..."I'm sorry, I don't think that translated."
"When you're in the wilderness and you're not sure whether the local stream is safe to drink from or not, you can boil it to remove impurities and collect the steam to drink. I'm implying that the Reach would contaminate the drinking water."
And they probably won't be the last... Until the war's over, anyway."We have very thorough safety procedures for publically-consumable water sources."
"You wouldn't be the first people to have said that."
What's the bet they're so busy watching the flunkies they can see, they missed the ones they couldn't? Sleeper agents, covert teams, local sympathisers... So many ways to infect the planet..."We are aware of the Reach's habits. Be assured that they and their thralls are monitored closely."
"Or that. But on your heads be it."
Though I suspect he gave you latitude in finishing any fight they start."To be clear: while we certainly do not expect you to like each other, violent hostility will not be permitted."
"Don't worry: Clarissi Dox has given me clear orders in that regard. Nothing more cutting than a quip, unless they start it."
Well, any conversation besides them yelling, "Die!" And OL replying, "After you." Could be an amusing chance to meet some recurring Reach diplomat characters..."We would prefer it if you kept away from them entirely. We find that two belligerent groups meeting generally results in hostilities and we are eager to avoid that."
"If you insist. I think it would be a wasted opportunity, though. I rarely get to meet Reach citizens, and I've never done so somewhere I could have a conversation with one."
Besides not the Reach delegation?"I really think it would be best."
"Alright then. Who will I be meeting?"
Do you need hand-puppets? I'm definitely getting the feeling the Gyuanites are not good at dealing with the unexpected..."Initially… It.. really depends on the purpose of your visit?"
"I.. thought that was obvious, but if you want a summary: Reach bad. N.E.M.O. good."
There we go again with the bizarre statements, OL. This is why people think you're odd.I grin idiotically for a moment-
"Friends?"
-and then regain my normal facial expression.
So, going to form a committee to oversee the diplomatic committee? Wonder if they'll want to meet separately or all together?"So, obviously, military and trade policy, and interstellar relations. It's not at all surprising that your government has concerns about a major military alliance appearing on your metaphorical doorstep, and I'll do what I can to allay them."
"We can get people from the Diplomatic Affairs Office, the Defence Force Office and the Trade Commission to meet with you. They can convey the concerns of their superiors and then feed back to them with your responses."
...Well, not leading off on a friendly footing, then? I foresee obstruction after obstruction on this case."That's… Fine for a first meeting, but I'm going to have to meet with someone senior once we've got the general shape of an agreement thrashed out."
"That will rather depend on how the earlier meetings go."
Will you look at that? They don't even need me to taunt Murphy on this one."Ah. Alright." I shrug. "I'd have thought that your government would at least want some kind of positive-sounding joint statement to steady the markets, but I'm sure that you know your people better than I do."
At the moment, at least.
"Thank you." He bows. "I will convey this to my superiors. I hope that you have a peaceful and productive visit."
Indeed, would the Reach allow word to spread that they used a substance as strange and dangerous as Qwa-Matter? Or are they simply claiming he was killed by an anti-matter bomb or something?
Well, any conversation besides them yelling, "Die!" And OL replying, "After you." Could be an amusing chance to meet some recurring Reach diplomat characters...
There we go again with the bizarre statements, OL. This is why people think you're odd.
Will you look at that? They don't even need me to taunt Murphy on this one.
Reminder that one of Renegade-Paul (Grayven)'s delightful catch phrases is "Let Joy be unbound, for I am/have _____!" Though he is usually interrupted before he can finish. It makes me grin every single time.I feel like Paul has been stealthily trying to find a catchphrase, but none of them seem to quite work.
Now this... this is weird even for Paul. Eris would be pleased."I.. thought that was obvious, but if you want a summary: Reach bad. N.E.M.O. good."
I grin idiotically for a moment-
"Friends?"
-and then regain my normal facial expression.
As Mark Twain once said "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Which is also something that the late great Stan Lee might have said.
If it was another work, I'm not sure I'd be allowed to tell you.Actually, Mister Zoat is that a reference to something? Perhaps Doctor Who or another work I'm too uncultured to appreciate?
How useful is this trick, besides possibly giving atheistic aliens a pseudo-religious experience? Also, I love how Paul just casually reveals in-universe and to us his ability to transubstantiate."But there's nothing inherently special about electrical potentials, is there? There are few species with purely chemical neural networks, a few with exotic energy networks…"
I pull back, reducing the importance of my physical form and increasing my presence in the orange light. It's a little like when the Ophidian and I switched from my human body to her snake body when we were joined, though I'm still myself. I look down at my translucent form, and then up at the attaché.
"See? I can transubstantiate at will."
I shift back into the material as the attaché-.
"Are you alright?"
"Ah-. Ah-. A-."
"Do you require medical attention? If you can't speak, just want it and I'll-."
"Nono, that's fine! Um. Please remain mundane while you are visiting our world."
"Alright. I mean, subject to normal self-defence exemptions, sure. Is there some sort of cultural sensitivity I should know about? Because I've been reading your tourist information brochure and I didn't see anything..?"
"People think of Lantern constructs as something they attack with. If people saw you like that it might inadvertently cause.. confusion."
"Oh." I nod. "I suppose that makes sense.
"That's… Fine for a first meeting, but I'm going to have to meet with someone senior once we've got the general shape of an agreement thrashed out."
"That will rather depend on how the earlier meetings go."
...Well, not leading off on a friendly footing, then? I foresee obstruction after obstruction on this case.
I'm getting a funny feeling OL and company will get shuffled from subcommittee to branch office to under-secretaries before they really get anything done. A bureaucratic case of 'out of sight, out of mind', perhaps? At any rate, let's hope the Reach delegates decide to throw the first punch. Keep N.E.M.O's hands clean, and all that. But that's still a few days off yet...
lies _in_"A humanoid's consciousness lies it the electrical potentials of their neural network, right?"
"That's-. That sounds like an oversimplification, but… Yes, I understand what you mean."
Didn't Doctor Mist do something similar? Can't remember, going to search story only.How useful is this trick, besides possibly giving atheistic aliens a pseudo-religious experience? Also, I love how Paul just casually reveals in-universe and to us his ability to transubstantiate.
OL himself this something similar. I still don't know what this does. Mr Zoat?I nod. I'm probably the most resilient person taking part. And least likely to hold back. I float slightly off the ground, construct armour manifesting around me as I mirror Dr. Balewa's partial etherealisation.
My current guess is that this allows him to channel more power, like Dr. Balewa is doing.Dr. Balewa takes a deep, slow breath. He… Doesn't look… Entirely there, as if he's partially transubstantiated, so much magic being channelled through his body that his flesh just wasn't sufficient to contain it.
Thank you, corrected.
How useful is this trick, besides possibly giving atheistic aliens a pseudo-religious experience?
Didn't Doctor Mist do something similar? Can't remember, going to search story only.
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OL himself this something similar. I still don't know what this does. Mr Zoat?
Edit2:
My current guess is that this allows him to channel more power, like Dr. Balewa is doing.
I mean, OL observed what Dr. Mist did as "transubstantiation" according to the acual text, and copied that, in the chapter the quotes come from. There's no evidence that your definitions are actually correct.No no that isn't the same at all. When you become ethereal you are moving your physical matter to another plane of existence, the ethereal plane, that overlaps basically the entirety of the prime material plane, which is what we call the normal physical world. Becoming ethereal is either identical or incredibly similar to what martians do that puts them out of phase with physical reality, letting vibrating packets of their physical matter pass harmlessly through other vibrating packets of physical matter as long as they vibrate at a different frequency.
Transubstantiation isn't the same at all because your physical form isn't moved elsewhere or vibrating correctly to dodge between other particles, it is transformed into magical or spiritual energy of the sort that makes up a soul. Its closer to astral projection than becoming ethereal, like when the sorcerer supreme punches your soul out and you can wander around as a ghost.
When most people astrally project themselves their body stays exactly where it is, unmoving and insensate, connected to their soul form by a microscopic silver strand coming from their third eye. Both are weaknesses that could be exploited. Killing the body or severing the strand leave you as a powerless ghost trapped outside of physical reality. So either turning your body directly into a soul and bringing it with you, or turning your soul directly into a body and coming back, are stupid over powered on their own, being able to do both is our typcial levels of absurd from this fic that we are accustomed to.
I guess.. that's why.. I didn't, then?Trashed means discarded in the best meaning possible so I don't think that's the word you wanted to use there
Number 2983We have very thorough safety procedures for publically-consumable water sources."
"You wouldn't be the first people to have said that."
"We are aware of the Reach's habits. Be assured that they and their thralls are monitored closely."
"Or that. But on your heads be it."
Whoohoo! 100000000! Wait a minute is it a good thing I came back so many times or bad thing that I died so many times?
Heh."Thank you." He bows. "I will convey this to my superiors. I hope that you have a peaceful and productive visit."
"I'd have thought that your government would at least want some kind of positive-sounding joint statement to steady the markets, but I'm sure that you know your people better than I do."
"It's a perfect conductor of heat. And -and this is the important bit- electricity." I stare into her eyes but I don't think she's getting it. "No loss in transmission. No heat. No electromagnetic radiation. No light. One hundred percent of what you put in comes out again in a useable fashion." She gives me an uncertain nod. I don't think she's quite getting it. "Something like six percent of electricity generated in the US each year is lost in transmission. Nearly five hundred kilowatt hours just gone, per person. A hundred and sixty billion for the country as a whole each year. To say nothing of the disruption to radio signals copper cables cause. And that's ignoring the possible applications it has in communications or computing."
"You.. seem.. fairly excited about this."
"Diana, no one has this. No one."
Nothing that's had a wide social impact, but the US government is using it in a Federally funded infrastructure program to help the economy post-Sheeda.
Not very smart when you think about it given the Orange Light's many many many weaknesses.He's turning himself into an avarice construct here.
I'm not sure how much is instinctive and how much would need to be learned but- He'd be as strong and tough as one of his constructs, and he'd be able to utilize anything he can do with a ring with his own internal energy. Edit: Including shapeshifting, just as a lantern can shape their constructs anyway they like.
He's got more than one suit of armour.Possible continuity error: In part 13 of Gammadion, Superboy refers to his armor being orichalcum rather than Nth metal.