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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Does Renegade have any plans regarding Cassandra Sandsmark? (like revealing her existence to Diana, or inviting her into his gaggle of mostly-female superpowered students/family). I don't think she's come up in his timeline, but he does know who she is from comics knowledge, from this update:

I raise my eyebrows as I return my attention to her. Curious. Not entirely unexpected. And it… Reminds me of that Teen Titans comic where after spending a good deal of time disempowered, Cassandra Sandsmark discovered that the various mystical influences on her life weren't providing her with power so much as restricting the power she had innately as Zeus's daughter. Do Diana's powers come from the goddesses..? Or do they come from her titanic nature?

I'd like to see him interact more with the pantheons of Earth (including Hell), it would be fun.
 
it's primary weapon system
its

Three Scarabs represents a significant expenditure of resources; Reach resources that they actually care about.
Colon or comma, man; don't waffle halfway in between with a semicolon! (Or an em dash, which is how my writing style would do it, but I don't expect your style to use one.)

But I suppose that we've proved that we can beat Scarabs; the jury's still out on this fleet.
This one, on the other hand, is correct.

car crusher construct appears around them and ramming closed.
"appearing" (or restructure to "a car crusher construct appears around them and rams closed")

I know you're playing me...
That statement was completely true.
 
Sooo, what happens if he drops those ships into the Honden? It's potentially brain-frying and the ships wouldn't have defenses against it.
 
Hey Zoat, when I click on this link it doesn't seem to work.

It actually opens a new tab that says that it can't find the site, but for the other ones it doesn't open new tabs and they're there.

It may be that the link is faulty, or something is wrong with my computer.
Mr Zoat
The problem is that there is an "=" at the start of the link (right before the https)
 
its
Colon or comma, man; don't waffle halfway in between with a semicolon! (Or an em dash, which is how my writing style would do it, but I don't expect your style to use one.)
"appearing" (or restructure to "a car crusher construct appears around them and rams closed")
Thank you, corrected.
That statement was completely true.

Hey Zoat, when I click on this link it doesn't seem to work.
Thank you, corrected.
 
Onslaught (part 19)
25th August 2012
05:41 GMT


The space around me turns purple and I abandon everything other than personal defence.

Shieldshieldshield!

Something just happened that caused them to snap out of the confusion my desire manipulation caused. I-.

Ah, duck and get back inside the hull because the flak shots are heading towards me and if they hit I'm dead. The fracture cannons are going through the hull easily enough but the beams from the two weapons can't coexist and I can just about hold out against this. It's not just a matter of maintaining the construct barriers, I've also got to prevent them opening a fracture inside me, which…

Fewer incoming shots. The ships are warping away. I need to

break

out and recreate my gravity stabiliser construct and-. Beam singularity, while they're trying to use their shields for running. That ship-. Yes! Now again, smaller, target their fracture generators! Crippled, good. And then

break

away to hit another ship. Hull broken! Target the weapons and fire-. Another ship crippled and another three warp out because I can't stop them, shield myself and attack at the same time. The next one's-.

Construct broken

move!

Where did that-?

A Scarab Warrior, the first one I encountered. I don't recognise the propulsion system they've morphed, but they're faster than they were-.

No, that was a warp. One of the ships bent space to move them into place, but since a spatial warp is pretty much a spatial warp I've got no way to tell which. Guess the closest? Fly behind that ship to restore my constructs fly out target and-.

And the construct's gone again because someone's-. The ships are feeding him data in real time. He's listening to aliens? Fine then, duck back and pulse orange energy because I spotted that lensing effect-. Hah, weren't expecting that were you? X-ionised sword and lunge, because I can't spare the-

Warning: low power. Fourteen percent remaining.

-charge right now. Been a while since I've heard that warning, but if Dox intends for me to do this sort of mission then he's going to have to accept the inefficiency and grant me a second ring again. Or give me the time to make a decent one myself.

My sword cuts through the left side of his chest as another ship leaves the combat area. Three effectives left, and one less Scarab when my follow-up cut slices his head and Scarab in twain. Now fly and fire!

And the last two go. I can't see either of the two remaining Scarabs, so either they're in hiding or they left with the ships.

"Lantern Threllian, you watching?"

Yes, Illustres. Doctor Sivana was just informing me that he believes he can build an interdiction field to prevent those warps that will be significantly more effective than… Currently-.

"Than the constructs I used. Good; I'll use his device in future. I'm low on power and Dox wants me elsewhere. Do you think you can handle the recovery without me?"

Yes.

"Then come and relieve me."

Because I need to stay here in case they come back. I don't think they will; those reports Guy shared with me suggest that the Reach never found a reliable way to determine how much charge a Lantern has left. If the rest of the fleet did come back I'd fight on until I was on vapours and then head to the Honden to recharge. That would only buy them… A few seconds entirely free of my interference, but they could use that to destroy the crippled ships and warp back out again.

Another Lantern would be stuffed, of course.

I could start the recovery process myself, but I can't spare the power. Because if they come back I'm going to need that fourteen percent. But… This… Went relatively well. I didn't need that clone, which I'm glad about. Didn't get all the ships, but I did get enough to demonstrate a viable counter-strategy to construct-draining attacks and took down some of them. We've got enough of Threllian's species to increase their genetic variety, and study what the Reach did to them.

"That was a rather impressive display."

Of course, I didn't target the ships' communications systems. Which means that my Reach admirer can still speak to me.

"Me or them?"

"Oh, both. If you were a Scarab Warrior your creativity and speed would put you in the top hexile, at the very least."

"Gosh. Are all the Scarabs who can keep up with me on holiday?"

"You know enough about Reach strategy to know that we don't respond at full force to initial attacks. Our best Scarab Warriors are in reserve, for when we need them."

"I didn't know that Scarabs could bond with severed heads."

"As long as the brain is alive. Though the Scarab will struggle to maintain vital functions without organs. I hope that one makes it back; I suspect that it will prove extremely instructive."

"Did you get a report on my peace negotiation attempt?"

"No, but I doubt that it matters. We can't let you get away with this. A purely local arrangement might be possible, but… You asked for something that would cripple us, didn't you?"

"You would have become the trading state you pretend to be."

"With you guaranteeing the peace?"

"Telepaths exist, you know. You wouldn't have to just take my word for it."

"I'm trained to evade telepaths, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you were too."

"Magic, then?"

"Even if you were honest, I don't know enough about the subject to confirm anything you told me about it."

"And even if I could, your people wouldn't go for it."

"You could try teaching us?"

"That sounds like a rather critical security breach."

Though having said that, as far as we know the Reachians aren't capable of using magic. It wouldn't give them a new capacity; it would just let them plan around ours a little better.



Yeah, no.

"But you were happy with the performance of the ships?"

"They clearly out-performed the ships we use in our Outer Region Fleets. I invested, and I reap the benefits."

"I should thank you, then. We were worried that those species might have been lost permanently."

Threllian appears next to me, and I nod.

"But I'm afraid I'll have to cut this short. Excuse me."
 
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restore my constructs fly out target and-.

maybe 'constructs, fly out'

to have to accept the inefficiency and grant me a second ring again

You can just ask Hinon.

Or give me the time to make a decent one myself.

You can alter your assimilated constructs into new rings, though those may not be decent.

And you may still need a lot of time to actually make a ring.

less Scarab was my follow-up cut

'when my'

ships and warps back out again.

'warp'

"Oh, both. If you were a Scarab Warrior your creativity and speed would put you in the top hexile, at the very least."

Ah Paul, always impressing the bad people,

Though having said that, as far as we know the Reachains aren't capable of using magic. It wouldn't give them a new capacity; it would just let them plan around ours a little better.



Yeah, no.

Gasp, Paul is not helping a bad person increase their power.

Will the miracles never cease.
 
Something I don't understand: If both of those fleets were Threllian, why was the first one so much weaker than the second? Or was the first one a different species?
 
25th August 2012
05:41 GMT


The space around me turns purple and I abandon everything other than personal defence.

Shieldshieldshield!
A massive, multi-ship crossfire? If it were anyone else, I'd say it was overkill. But when OL is in the field, Overkill becomes the minimum required level... The problem is the longer this goes on, the more they can learn how he fights, which leaves him vulnerable to targetted counter-tactics.

Something just happened that caused them to snap out of the confusion my desire manipulation caused. I-.

Ah, duck and get back inside the hull because the flak shots are heading towards me and if they hit I'm dead. The fracture cannons are going through the hull easily enough but the beams from the two weapons can't coexist and I can just about hold out against this. It's not just a matter of maintaining the construct barriers, I've also got to prevent them opening a fracture inside me, which…
Oooh, they can basically telefrag? That's a whole new level of nasty. But the sudden no-sell of his new trick is a worry. Did they have a backup system, or has someone more distant taken over?

Fewer incoming shots. The ships are warping away. I need to

break

out and recreate my gravity stabiliser construct and-. Beam singularity, while they're trying to use their shields for running. That ship-. Yes! Now again, smaller, target their fracture generators! Crippled, good. And then
At least he's getting killshots through while their guns are occupied elsewhere.

break

away to hit another ship. Hull broken! Target the weapons and fire-. Another ship crippled and another three warp out because I can't stop them, shield myself and attack at the same time. The next one's-.
Not a perfect mission complete, but the fleet is much reduced from it's former strength. I suspect it'll be pulled back to rearm and... re-crew.

Construct broken

move!
Always a pain when you're trying to do something involved and someone just keeps poking you, huh?

Where did that-?

A Scarab Warrior, the first one I encountered. I don't recognise the propulsion system they've morphed, but they're faster than they were-.
And for some reason, I'm picturing manoeuvring thrusters like a Gundam dotted all over their back and calves...

No, that was a warp. One of the ships bent space to move them into place, but since a spatial warp is pretty much a spatial warp I've got no way to tell which. Guess the closest? Fly behind that ship to restore my constructs fly out target and-.
Oh, that's even more annoying. The fleet can throw scarabs around the battlefield now?

And the construct's gone again because someone's-. The ships are feeding him data in real time. He's listening to aliens? Fine then, duck back and pulse orange energy because I spotted that lensing affect-. Hah, weren't expecting that were you? X-ionised sword and lunge, because I can't spare the-

Warning: low power. Fourteen percent remaining.
Wow, goes to show how energy-intensive this whole fight was. When was the last time we heard that alert in-story?

-charge right now. Been a while since I've heard that warning, but if Dox intends for me to do this sort of mission then he's going to have to accept the inefficiency and grant me a second ring again. Or give me the time to make a decent one myself.

My sword cuts through the left side of his chest as another ship leaves the combat area. Three effectives left, and one less Scarab was my follow-up cut slices his head and Scarab in twain. Now fly and fire!
At least you've got some mission kills to loot. Including a Scarab Warrior, though I expect it's already self-destructing as you turn away.

And the last two go. I can't see either of the two remaining Scarabs, so either they're in hiding or they left with the ships.

"Lantern Threllian, you watching?"
Well, fights over. That was an entertaining five minutes. No, literally. Look at the timestamps: He approaches the fleet at 5:36, begins his attack a minute or so later. Last ship leaves the AO at about 5:42. Goes to show how quickly a really effective Lantern can fight.

Yes, Illustres. Doctor Sivana was just informing me that he believes he can build an interdiction field to prevent those warps that will be significantly more effective than… Currently-.

"Than the constructs I used. Good; I'll use his device in future. I'm low on power and Dox wants me elsewhere. Do you think you can handle the recovery without me?"
Ah, Tad making himself actually helpful... Something OL said to him must have gotten through that misanthropic outer shell.

Yes.

"Then come and relieve me."
Because you really need a drink after that little tussle, huh? :p I bet Guy would pull a subspaced bottle of soda (still ice-cold!) out as soon as his relief was on station...

Because I need to stay here in case they come back. I don't think they will; those reports Guy shared with me suggest that the Reach never found a reliable way to determine how much charge a Lantern has left. If the rest of the fleet did come back I'd fight on until I was on vapours and then head to the Honden to recharge. That would only buy them… A few seconds entirely free of my interference, but they could use that to destroy the crippled ships and warps back out again.

Another Lantern would be stuffed, of course.
If you ever learn to channel energy direct from the Honden, that would push you clear into diety-class threat territory... And the Reach would likely panic in its attempts to find ways to kill you permanently.

I could start the recovery process myself, but I can't spare the power. Because if they come back I'm going to need that fourteen percent. But… This… Went relatively well. I didn't need that clone, which I'm glad about. Didn't get all the ships, but I did get enough to demonstrate a viable counter-strategy to construct-draining attacks and took down some of them. We've got enough of Threllian's species to increase their genetic variety, and study what the Reach did to them.
And pulling your personal lantern out right now would be an open invitation for a cloaked Scarab to hit you in the back... Good plan.

"That was a rather impressive display."

Of course, I didn't target the ships' communications systems. Which means that my Reach admirer can still speak to me.
Transmitting on all frequencies, no doubt. Because he (or possibly she, who knows?) knows OL wants the wrecked ships, and will be nearby to hear them. Smart enemies, always annoying.

"Me or them?"

"Oh, both. If you were a Scarab Warrior your creativity and speed would put you in the top hexile, at the very least."
Of course, to the Admiral, I'm sure that's high praise. Pity OL doesn't share that opinion.

"Gosh. Are all the Scarabs who can keep up with me on holiday?"

"You know enough about Reach strategy to know that we don't respond at full force to initial attacks. Our best Scarab Warriors are in reserve, for when we need them."
And fleets like these are hardly priority sites to be guarded, I suppose. Except for those with the anti-Spectrum weapons...

"I didn't know that Scarabs could bond with severed heads."

"As long as the brain is alive. Though the Scarab will struggle to maintain vital functions without organs. I hope that one makes it back; I suspect that it will prove extremely instructive."
It probably wouldn't be the weirdest Scarab Warrior out there, I guess? Given some of the more unusual morphologies in the galaxy.

"Did you get a report on my peace negotiation attempt?"

"No, but I doubt that it matters. We can't let you get away with this. A purely local arrangement might be possible, but… You asked for something that would cripples us, didn't you?"
Something like that, yes. You might want to read it, clever boy.

"You would have become the trading state you pretend to be."

"With you guaranteeing the peace?"
Not OL personally, no. But I'm sure the Orange Lantern Corps would be happy to oversee their disarmament,

"Telepaths exist, you know. You wouldn't have to just take my word for it."

"I'm trained to evade telepaths, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you were too."
Not as well as some versions of him, no. Looking at you, 'my mind is a fortress' Renegade. Still, OL does have quite the booby-trap available.

"Magic, then?"

"Even if you were honest, I don't know enough about the subject to confirm anything you told me about it."
"Don't try to frighten us with your sorceror's ways, Lord Vader..."

"And even if I could, your people wouldn't go for it."

"You could try teaching us?"
:VBwahahaha:Vhahahahahahahah:Vahahahahahahaha:Vhhahahaack-glurk... Oh, god, I'm dying here. The Admiral should go into stand-up with lines that funny...

"That sounds like a rather critical security breach."

Though having said that, as far as we know the Reachains aren't capable of using magic. It wouldn't give them a new capacity; it would just let them plan around ours a little better.
...Ol, No.

:confused: Man, is it sad that practically deserved a 'Common Sense' interrupt?

"But you were happy with the performance of the ships?"

"They clearly out-performed the ships we use in our Outer Region Fleets. I invested, and I reap the benefits."
Man, I want OL to meet this guy face to face at some point, just to see how he stacks up to our mental images of him, huh?

"I should thank you, then. We were worried that those species might have been lost permanently."

Threllian appears next to me, and I nod.

"But I'm afraid I'll have to cut this short. Excuse me."
Time to go find a quiet room, recharge and then relax. Because that might have been one of the longest, toughest fights in recent episodes he's had... Anyone else would probably need time to wind down after that...

So, the mission draws to a close, but there's still things to be taken care of and sub-plots to be resolved, like Tad's upcoming duel (which I expect will be an aside in the next episode.) The biggest one will be N.E.M.O's science divisions having their say about the anti-Spectrum guns. Those probably aren't going to be a major impact on most battlefields once the Corps adjusts to them, though.

Something I don't understand: If both of those fleets were Threllian, why was the first one so much weaker than the second? Or was the first one a different species?
The first fleet was a different race, the juluuni (pangolin-like humanoids) with a much less extreme doctrine of ships and armaments. And presumably hadn't been equipped with the anti-Spectrum weaponry yet.
 
Ah, Tad making himself actually helpful... Something OL said to him must have gotten through that misanthropic outer shell.

Or he just wants to show off how smart he is.

Still, OL does have quite the booby-trap available.

The name trick.

Don't try to frighten us with your sorceror's ways, Lord Vader..."

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Man, is it sad that practically deserved a 'Common Sense' interrupt

Yes, yes it is sad.
 
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Honestly these battle sequences are already disjointed messes and now in between short paragraphs of action, and jumps and reactions and philosophical thought... there are conversations.

Also like 3 fleets of this level of capability would utterly destroy the green lanterns. It's a little unbelievable that the Reach in its stand off with the GL has not developed this kind of tech until a few month after the OL war is declared.

Those "Free Traders" definitely need to be "killed in an antipiracy raid"... letting people get away with selling your enemies weapons designed purely to counter your main weapons is basically endorsing an act of war
 
maybe 'constructs, fly out'
That's better grammar, but he's thinking in a rush.
You can just ask Hinon.
He can get a ring from a variety of people, but Dox is supposed to be in charge of Corp policy.
You can alter your assimilated constructs into new rings, though those may not be decent.

And you may still need a lot of time to actually make a ring.
They're not.
Thank you, corrected.
 
Honestly it's nice to see Paragon on the back foot every now and then. He's grown beyond what Earth can reasonably chuck at him so I like the idea of there being threats who can contest him without being upper New God tier or the like.

It honestly feels sometimes like Renegade is more interesting because he struggles more. Though having Darkseid just lay him out in barely more then a minute or two did help with that.
 
Mr Zoat ?
If he just needs a power bank wouldn't something larger like a belt or a slim backpack be better than a ring?
 
when you think about it, he should be able to recharge his ring by popping into the Honden.
 
It works for me. I'm clicking on it and going to the correct page. Looking at it in plain text mode reveals no extraneous equal signs.

It's also nonfunctional for me, though what I'm seeing is a "%3Dhttps" and not an =, but I have no clue what that means.

A quick inspection has revealed an entire second https in the link however, and this one does have an = at the beginning.
 

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