With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Oh, Karax sounds interesting

I live for those moments of Paul casually dismanteling a society

Do they already know all seven colours can have Lanterns? Will he tell them about White Lanterns? Oooh, this will be fun!

 

To be fair, he could have just rolled a Nat 1 on his wisdom check.

 

Wait, I think I know what's happening.

The Reach seem to be insectoid in some ways, so they may have heard of Paul and what he did for the Spider Queen.

True she's a arachnid, but it's close enough.

They want Paul to have sex with them.

Just hope they don't expect him to pay for any potential child support.

The deadbeat.

I think future Paul mentioned other Lanterns achieving enlightenment.

The Green Lantern Illustres seemed to be enlightened.

And avarice may be more difficult that will.

Well, some are better than others.

He showed up during the Angel invasion.

He was apparently a priest or apprentice priest at a Source temple.

Because half of the Sivanas are horrible people that would likely destroy the universe just to see how it dies.

 

They wouldn't, that'd invalidate the result!

Now if it was to prove a different point you might have an argument.

 

The wiki only has one William Hand, the New Earth one, whose origin matches the screenshot links Zoat posted in this chapter, and whose history got altered after Infinite Crisis (I mean there are Flashpoint and Prime Earth versions but we can all be pretty sure Zoat isn't using them).

 

You know, we now have one more thing to blame on the Justice League, if they fully embraced space tech with good sensors and interdiction fields then people won't have as easy of a time to sneak to Earth.

 

Yeah, though it looks like Zoat made two versions for his story, so the one with the gun probably isn't using the black light.

And I think Scar connected him with the black light in the comics, long after he made the gun thing.

 

That may not have been so easy.

The Green Lanterns can't give out tech and their Watchtower had a lot of its capabilities disabled by the Guardians.

The Hawks may have also been forbidden from giving their tech.

And any tech they may have gotten from other aliens may take time to analyze and replicate safely. Assuming it can be replicated and doesn't require some super rare material that can't be found on Earth.

Also even if they used the tech that doesn't mean others can't find a way around it.

I think Paul actually installed sensor tech and interdiction fields, and Hinon activated the Watchtowers full capabilities, so they're safe a bit on that front.

 

Thank you, corrected.

No, he fought Lantern Jordan, but Jordan generally beat him by destroying his technology and naturally enough he wasn't eager to share what he knew.

No. The William Hand in Blackest Night is such a completely different person to the original William Hand that for the purpose of this story I'm assuming that he was a different person with the same name. Seriously, look at him in any of his prior appearences and try and work out how he became that.

There were a lot of retcons at around that time.

Thank you, corrected.

 

I love how you listed these and I hope that you continue to update this in the future. Also, here are some few corrections.

This is missing one appearance.

All of these are the same guy, just at different points of his personal timeline. Also, Paul was never a Teal Lantern, that was some other fanfic. Paul ended up in a version of said fanfic.

Mr Zoat, does this mean that you are retconning the times William Hand was mentioned in-story or by you in threads? Here is a list of said mentions:

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-11049194
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...g-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-6278414
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...ng-justice-si-thread-six.292893/post-13759492
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si.267344/post-12019013

 

Who is selling to the Free Lancers? Perhaps a Sivana? Or Lex? Or the Light?

 

Lex and the Light seem like a good guess.

 

If the mortician William Julian Hand was aware of what was happening, he gave no sign of it. William Steven Hand was already in prison, and the SI assumed that he couldn't be the man he was looking for.

 

Could someone please tell me what Fracture Cannons are? My only reference is Darksiders and I know that's not it.

 

They're what Star Trek scripts refer to as '[tech] cannons'. Their exact nature isn't really that important.

 

I still want to blame the league because it sounds like fun to blame them, and then to blame the guardians. I mean if they get into trouble because some earth tech escaped earth then it would be hilarious for me.

 

By dark-skinned do you just mean very tan or actually Black?

Well, if Celestia uses the mirror, that latter part won't actually be an issue. And if Renegade can fall in love with an alicorn due to his attractions being more metaphysical than biological, Kanto theroetically can as well. Not that I'm actually interested in the latter's love life.
This is the Kanto from the Justice Lords universe, right? Wonder if there's any chance of the Earth-16Z Kanto noticing him (Grayven didn't apparently notice Renegade, but an assassin New God might have better senses for that kind of thing).

They spent literal years together in the future as a metaphysically attuned pair and Renegade still didn't tell her everything; very in-character for a Paul.

 

Dark brown.

 

Fine; still Caucasian or African?

 

Well you have your human sister.

And in some universes there's Grail, but not in this one.

So does your girlfriend, but you still date her.

Sassy.

Preparing herself for bullshit.

This should be red.

Gotta get rid of the whole bloodline.

He may already have an established realm.

You already got a Mother Box from him.

Though I don't remember if Scott actually did the negotiating, so Himon may have never met you.

That's an understatement.

'was trying'

So she either didn't go on that mission, or she forgot about it.

Is the next episode paragon or renegade focused?

 

Even if you're close to someone that doesn't mean you'll tell them everything about you.

He may have thought that it wasn't important, or he may have even forgotten about it himself.

 

Huh, so Grayven & Artemis have sort of a Solar/Lunar bond from Exalted going on?

 

Nice to see Artemis isn't just totally subservient to or uncritical of Renegade, I was slightly worried about that for a while.
I'm still sad that we didn't get to see the initial meeting with Himon, it seems like it would have been an interesting negotiation even with Scott there to vouch for him.

She described herself as the 'goddess of bow-ninjas' once, so definitely suited to a stealthier skillset. She might actually stand to learn a lot from Kanto.

 

That would be Claudia Borgia, pulled through time via... some method I cannot remember. I'm sure wiser minds than mine can elucidate. And I see the Renegade is going with an old Apokalyptian classic for the big fight: Send an Assassin to stab them in the back while they're distracted.

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Well, with a life filled with death, wouldn't you gain a deeper appreciation of living?

Naturally, Lady Mortalla is likely to be more comfortable with the stately manners Claudia was raised into. Also the darker side of courtly politics. So a nice not-quite-family visit for each of them.

Probably not the strangest thing she's seen in her life.

The lady's been shedding that defensive shell of passivity she built up to survive Darkseid? Heartwarming.

Not that she ever expected him to have a very long 'retirement'. Though I like that their cover is simply 'time travellers' and people believe it. Ah, DC...

Admittedly, to one of Granny Goodness' youngsters, that alone would be a fine reward, especially one handed down by Darkseid Himself.

I don't think anyone feels comfortable asking Him anything. And that brother Lady Claudia mentions? Cesare Borgia.

Well, I'm sure if Celestia was ever willing to try the mirror portal, her human form would be a spectacular beauty... And quite expansive, depending on your inspiration. And yes, I mean she'd be tall. Minds out of the gutter!

Heh. 'A bad time'... You think?

Also, a phone call would leave some incriminating trails, even if you could legitimately prosecute plans to murder an alien demigod of war. Methinks Batman would have concerns.

Probably not the most unexpected of wedding guests, but still, what a way to crash a party.

About damn time you called upon the Hunter in Green... She could probably be your most useful ally in this fight, you know.

It sounds so simple when you say it so calmly...

Huh, I thought the whole process had taken a little longer. Closer to a few weeks, honestly. That's what I get for not bothering to keep up with timestamps.

IE, quite a bit more combat-ready. Makes sense that he'd leave her till later, though I bet she's just a bit annoyed at him leaving her all worked up like that for so long.

Yeah, conquering an entire world and turning it to your goals definitely made you two very compatible. Like, you're the tank, she's the DPS.

And Lynne playing the Mezzer, eh? So who gets to run the healer who's got to keep all of you in one piece?

Heh, she doesn't even need to read his face to tell his feelings about something... Gotta like spiritual connections...

Also, he's likely heard about the whole 'Suzerain of Earth' thing and isn't willing to attack the seat of your power...

Indeed. And there's a lot of investment in Earth, Vega and Wilson. But of them all, Earth is his place of power.

Besides an ugly outfit? Well...

Heh, she's going to go do the arrow-ninja sneaky-thing? Let's just hope she can stay concealed in Grayven's place of power...

That 'son-in-law' would be Orion, I believe, since his wife, Bekka, is Himon's daughter. That could be awkward.

Oh yeah, the Doomsday is a thing here, isn't it. Not that the Justice League knows that. What with it having been extracted before the Team could get anywhere.

For shame, Renegade, you didn't mention it to her? I applaud your operational info-security, but really...

And so the preparation continues. The next Renegade episode should be quite interesting to see once the excrement starts flying fan-ward. I foresee quite the mess before all is said and done. Meanwhile, OL has that road-trip to the 'Vatican City' of Lantern worship to look forwards to. Fun times ahead.

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Godspeech. Not as important this time as last:

 

It was a combination of Lazurus Pit and New God tech.

It's technically true, in a convoluted way.

Claudia is from another time and the year on Earth 50 when Kanto and she left was several years before the current date in Earth 16.

You had your mind in the gutter too, you hypocrite.

After watching the latest episode of Rick and Morty I can't help but imagine Paul becoming their version of the devil.

It's bound to happen sooner or later.

 

I thought Grayven has to face challengers personally to make his god mojo count? Sending Kanto after OtherGrayven isn't "cheating"?

 

He may not want to face him and just wants him dead.

Or there's a loophole that allows him to do it.

 

Shooting people with assassin subordinates is not that different from shooting them with fleet subordinates. As long as they carry his will, I think that counts.

 

Mr Zoat, where exactly on Earth 16 has Kanto 50 been staying all this time? Also, is the Justice League aware of his presence on Earth?

I also found an old error.

Since this is Soranik Natu talking, it should be 'She'.