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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"When Karl Kant's capsule first arrived, the Führer determined that he was an Aryan of a more advanced sort sent back in time from national socialists in the distant future."
Angelica already explained that to him when she first arrived.
 
I dont remember if it was mentioned, but what happened to Atlantis on Nazi Earth?
 
Angelica already explained that to him when she first arrived.

I thought that was from Word of Zoat and not said in the story. Is there a link to this?

Yeah I think Zoat just mentioned it in a post, not in a chapter of the story.

I dont remember if it was mentioned, but what happened to Atlantis on Nazi Earth?

Atlantis is left alone because Hitler declared that Atlanteans are descended from Aryans. Atlanteans don't have much to do with the surface world because they hate it.

Though it was apparently conquered, but they're mostly left alone due to both believing they are somehow related to them and because controlling an underwater kingdom may be too difficult.

Can Paul mention that he met a clone of Hitler that married a black woman and had kids with her? I would like to see how they would react.

That would be funny but it may also anger them and alienate them and unfortunately he needs their help right now.

Maybe after everything is finished he can reveal it to them as a way to unsettle them.
 
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Even non hostile nazi's are irritating a way only SJW's and rando mormon missionaries at 2am are.
Speaking as an ex-Mormon, I'd take the missionaries and SJWs over an actual Nazi any fucking day of the week. Mormons are just aggressively cheerful and helpful, and SJWs campaign for gender equality. Nazis are just plain evil.
 
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I defonitely doubted Overman's opinion that their "unified" world wasnt all it was cracked up to be. This just confirmed it.

They are pretty anti-science and anti-magic being carried by Alien tech. Any advantages they are experiencing has little to do imo from subjugating and genociding the earth and entirely to do with Kryptonian tech.
 
To quote the Emperor of Mankind, "As one of the ten thousand you could possibly be my biggest failure and you are living proof that eugenics does not work."
The conversation with the doctor is giving me the urge to turn every last national socialist on Earth 10 into mindless chaos spawns. That way the planets general intelligence quotient would SKYROCKET!

On a slightly related note, their 'World Ice Theory' was by far the strangest and most nonsensical Universal Creation story I've ever read. At least for Norse, Aztecs, Egyptian, Celtic, and Cherokee make a fantasy narrative amount of sense.
 
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"Does potential long term harm really matter in this instance? He's a degenerate and almost certainly a subhuman."
Ask any of these next generation Nazis to define the word 'degenerate' and it would be something without falling into old Nazi talking points that run in circles.

This mix of human copies of Kryptonian tech combined with further marinating in the Nazi ideology...

The tone of this doctor is of someone who's done this kind of thing before. Done harmful things medically to a prisoner because they were all subhumans of one type or another. Maybe that didn't matter before because Germany was always stronger with their Overman and tech so even if a potentially valuable prisoner died, it probably wouldn't matter.

National socialist culture is stagnant. And no amount of New Statesmen or anyone else will be able to stop that.
 
Earlier I mentioned it would be interesting to see Paul/JL try to help Overman fix Nazi earth while I'm still interested in that potential scenario I doubt any of them will say it's worth it to actually try to help these people.
 
Earlier I mentioned it would be interesting to see Paul/JL try to help Overman fix Nazi earth while I'm still interested in that potential scenario I doubt any of them will say it's worth it to actually try to help these people.

I think most if them would say that it's worth it, since they'd be changing a society into something better, but they may not do it since it would probably take more time and resources than they have.

They already have enough trouble trying to protect their world, both from outside threats and inner ones. They may not want more trouble.
 
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She knows my alternate here, and was assuming that she could take off my hand and disable me.
No, I think that's okay.
If you want to keep the comma, then it would be "and she was assuming". Removing the comma lets you reuse the subject from the first part.

handwriting analysis was thought to be good evidence until very recently.
Handwriting analysis IS good evidence. But as is often the case, good evidence can be used in bad ways. It can't be treated as proof in and of itself, only as a measure of statistical likeliness. This is an issue with many kinds of evidence that require expert interpretation. And pseudoscience like trying to read state of mind or even personality traits out of someone's handwriting is bunk.
 
Karl did say that while there are a lot of problems with how his society thinks and behaves, uniformity may still be a good thing.

At least if it's applied correctly.

Uniformity is not a good thing. It reduces diversity of viewpoint for one, which stifles progress. Especially given the "official" position is anti-science in numerous ways.

Their assesment of "other races" as subhuman are objectively false.
 
Uniformity is not a good thing. It reduces diversity of viewpoint for one, which stifles progress. Especially given the "official" position is anti-science in numerous ways.

Their assesment of "other races" as subhuman are objectively false.

True, as I said, Karl may not have a problem with uniformity, provided that it isn't uniformity to bad ideas, like the Nazis ideas.

Diversity of thought is a good thing but it can also lead to people holding viewpoints that are incorrect or downright stupid, and that can also lead to progress being stifled.

Karl has traveled to multiple universes and has seen societies that lack uniformity, and while he may think that while the defeat of the Nazis was a good thing there, the lack of order or uniformity is less appealing.

Not saying that he's right, just that this is probably why he likes uniformity as a concept.
 
True, as I said, Karl may not have a problem with uniformity, provided that it isn't uniformity to bad ideas, like the Nazis ideas.
Diversity of thought is a good thing but it can also lead to people holding viewpoints that are incorrect or downright stupid, and that can also lead to progress being stifled.
Karl has traveled to multiple universes and has seen societies that lack uniformity, and while he may think that while the defeat of the Nazis was a good thing there, the lack of order or uniformity is less appealing.
Not saying that he's right, just that this is probably why he likes uniformity as a concept.

I can sympathize with Overman on that, some more uniformity in general would be nice. That said if Overman has had a few meals on a more standard DC Earth, he is probably against uniformity when it comes to food culture as I doubt his Earth has Pizza, Hamburgers, American Chinese food, Mexican food and such.
 
I can sympathize with Overman on that, some more uniformity in general would be nice. That said if Overman has had a few meals on a more standard DC Earth, he is probably against uniformity when it comes to food culture as I doubt his Earth has Pizza, Hamburgers, American Chinese food, Mexican food and such.
Pizza has existed for a thousand years. It's still around on Earth 10, though not exactly popular in Germany. Similarly, the beef burger in a bun is an evolution of a 19th century German food. Mexican food exists, and I'm going to say that German soldiers attacking the southern US brought it back with them.

Chinese American food is gone.
 
...Hitler would have claimed Jesus was an Aryan, if he could have managed it. Are you so surprised that he'd pull something this crazy?.


He literally did that. He tried to make Positive Christianity the official state religion. It was the Christians of Nazi Germany not being willing to change denomination that made Nazis give up on a integrating Christianity.

Sadly the sect Positive Christianity exists to this day.
 
"Yes. We know better now, but the policy was established. The technology we had been given was a pure Aryan technology from the pure Aryan future, so that was the only avenue we would follow. Everything else was for the subhumans. There's some leeway, but magic is officially banned."

"Would you mind if I quote you on that?"

"No? It is public knowledge?" He looks puzzled. "In what context would be quoted?"

"If anyone asked me about banning magic again, you would be quoted as a leading national socialist superhero. It could help me convince a lot of people."

"Then by all means."
Comparing his opponents to literal Nazis might help convince some people, but others would just call him out on the ad hominem fallacy and point out that not all of the Nazi policies were bad (e.g. their environmental policies), so calling a policy bad because alternate universe Nazis support it is fallacious.
 
I've been thinking about how Nazi Earth can be fixed... and I remembered that we've already seen such a thing happen before. Xalitan Xor did it. Although his world was slightly better. Coutara did it. Paul did it for Vega. Although that was worse. Paul is planning on doing it to the Reach. I don't see why Paul wouldn't arrange for a similar event to go down here. He prefers the slow and careful approach when he can, but that will not work here. The civilization is designed to resist change. The only reasons for why Paul hasn't considered doing it all ready is because, first, he doesn't care all that much about alternative Nazi Earth. And secondly, he does care a little about Angelica and Overman, and doesn't want to step on their toes.
 
Cool beans that the Nazis pretended Overman's origin was basically The Red Son superman's actual origin.
No it's not. It's only the beginning of the alt-Nazis mixing in Nazi mental illness with real life for them. The Bat told Paul in that same conversation that even though it was later said to the public Overman is an alien, because Hitler threw out the time traveling Aryan story first, some people in their present still believe Overman was a time traveler and Krypton was a future Aryan colony that sent Karl back.

This mix is everywhere. Paul noticed in the medical bay advanced human versions of Kryptonian technology but there's a eugenics tool to measure head size as a valid metric for subhuman status that has a place. Plus the Reich doctor was legitimately fine with injuring the prisoner with drugs because the prisoner met the subhuman standard.

Victory and advanced alien derived technology and a Kryptonian as their national icon have not made the Nazis right or given them wisdom. All it's done is made them a cancer that will not go away.
 
"Huh. Maybe you should use Arty's plan instead." Laurence Senior's right hand shakes slightly as he lifts his bread to his mouth. He's trying to eat while moving his hands as little as possible, forearms resting on the table surface when not carrying food. He lost -obviously- but I doubt many octogenarians can manage as many push ups as he did before Cynthia made him stop. Cynthia notices the shake and as she does so he notices that she's noticed, returning his arm to the table surface as she makes a very small shake of her head.
Mr Zoat, I was rereading and found an error. That should be spelled as 'Lawrence'.
 
"Magic is a tool for primitive peoples who lack the whit for technology. It is not a tool for a proper Aryan."

shouldn't this be ' wit ' as in intelligence or knack? The Nazi doctor is saying primitive people don't have the wit for technology since alien technology helped Germany win the war and the world. And with The Bat saying there are magic tribal shamans in African reservations, what magic that is native to Earth-10 cannot overwhelm the Nazi technical advantage.
 

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