With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Ah yes, the "Chaos has already won everything forever everywhere so why bother trying" argument. A classic in the Warhammer community.

 

I don't know enough about WH's Chaos Gods to say if they're already getting personally involved on some level (making counter moves) but I know Kairos Fateweaver would probably be preparing something. Tzeentch probably isn't a fan of Paul lmao. Mr. Cut-your-bullshit-we-need-to-get-stuff-done and solver of mysteries by saying "Ring, scan."

 

This is fantasy, not 40k

 

Same gods, they just migrated over via The Warp. That's basically been true ever since 40k and Fantasy stopped being the same setting.

At least whenever the two aren't more directly connected because some author thought Fantasy just being a random world trapped in a Warp Storm or 40k being set in a marble on some wizard's desk was cool.

 

Yes, but this one was literally a giant maggot piloting an ogre corpse.

Thank you, corrected.

The Great Devourer will get them in the end.

 

Huh. The Big Plan is quite the dish to swallow, but the Secret Sauce makes it go down easy.

(The Secret Sauce is mass killing.)

 

Ridiculous, Ratmen don't exist, how could there be sightings?

 

I was doing a re-read, and noticed that in the bit where OL and Jade are about to vacation on a Thanagarian world, Jade acts surprised when he references Thanagarians fighting duels. He mentioned it to her post Nabu-killing, so is her surprise strictly at the particular context, or did the author lose track?

 

They had an Emperor called Mandred Skavenslayer. At times, literal armies of skaven roam the surface world, leaving their bodies when the armies are defeated. People in Warhammer aren't that stupid.

Probably lost track. Got a link?

 

Oh? Guess the Countess well remembers the Empire's history.... or she was familiar with Teclis in a different manner of speaking. Though knowing the Archmage, I dare say even HE has standards about the human women he sleeps with.

And to think she was a childhood friend of Karl Franz.... although I could see him finding her just as insufferable in private, while being perfectly cordial to the Countess as it befits a good politician to do so.

Hell, in the past, he probably couldn't stand her then either, given she was the type of person to coerce her father to raise her younger sister as a boy, just so she wouldn't be potentially upstaged in the beauty department.

 

No, but they can see the future, and he has no defense against a Chaos Sorcerer sacrificing 666 slaves to cast a spell that seeks him out and causes him to explode.

Which means what he's doing isn't actually a threat to them.

 

I know it's in the nature of Chaos to be chaotic, but this might be a bit much.

Not sure how to phrase a corrected version, but you're saying you can't guarantee that they DID flee, and I think you meant you can't guarantee that they DIDN'T.

 

I thought I once read something like, Mandred was retitled Mandred Ratslayer as a way of historically removing the idea of 'Skaven' being anything other then underground beastmen.
I guess its more that, Mandred Skavenslayer being a well known historical figure has always confused me with the existence of the Conspiracy of Silence ('there is no underground Skaven Empire, just rat-like beastmen who prefer caves').

 

Here we go. Workhorse part 8. https://forum.questionablequesting....ustice-si-thread-fourteen.8938/reader?page=37

 

Skaven don't leave bodies laying around though. The Black Hunger causes them to consume pretty much everything, battlefields where skaven win are picked clean.

 

I believe that was referring to when Skaven armies are defeated, in which case, why would their bodies not be laying around? Do they turn to dust when they die?

I imagine any battlefield where the Skaven lose, even if they manage to retreat, would have plenty of ratmen corpes laying around. Especially because of their "quantity has a quality all its own" tactics.

 

Missing quotations.

'have'

 

Thank you, corrected.

That was a stupid retcon when they didn't it, and it hasn't gotten less stupid since.

"Witch Hunter, that... Giant bell that the ratmen left, and the strange personal volley guns-."

"Weather balloons. They are weather balloons."

 

I'm guessing a change in belief altered their appearance, or they chose to look like that after a while.

I guess that's his battle mode.

 

Missing a quotation mark at the end.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Is Paul saying Kahndaq instead of Egypt because he knows the difference is mostly in name and because he doesn't feel like explaining what's different between the two versions of the countries?

 

Or they just did it to mess with LePaul.

 

Naturally, it's a metaphorical aspect of the realm. Hopefully Khepri will be able to stop and chat in his busy duties of rolling suns around. Otherwise this could take a while. Heh. I wonder if he gets union-mandated breaks. Would a giant scarab deity even smoke?

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I'm reminded of Djelibeybi's metaphysical structure in 'Pyramids', where all the mythical stuff is happening all the damn time. Like a constant parade of 'going forths' and 'coming forths'...

And it is a doozy. Let's just say it isn't commonly seen for... Reasons.

...And not just in things like Nut literally being the sky.

Beating off. Tugging the todger. A date with Rosie Palms. Surely your education in the bio-lab covered that much?

To be fair, Ra was basically born a dirty old man, and continued in much that vein, no matter how regal he acted otherwise. Especially with all the other gods mixed in to him.

I mean, a lot of creation myths do involve sex of some kind, usually between the primordial 'father' and 'mother' spirits. Assuming they don't make war first.

Not to be rude, Cernie, old mate. But you tend to just be a bloke with overly hairy legs and horns. We're talking full on anthropomorphic zoo-morphs.

And don't be kink-shaming. If the Kahndaqi gods want to enjoy being furries, let them.

The exit point of the Duat, the shadow realm where Ra spends half his day.

...Oh, right. Rising Sun. Hope you guys brought sunglasses.

And now I'm picturing the sun-disc atop his head-dress being a literal sun, a tiny ball of glowing plasma...

Kyrptonian eyes, with built-in flash dampening. Because why not over-engineer your species that far?

Thank goodness he doesn't have a silly voice, then. I doubt you could maintain any sort of respectful composure if he was, say, all nasally Brit.

I suppose that's one way to reconcile the image of a man with a scarab for a head. The joy of hieratic depictions.

Well, it was kind of a logical assumption to make...

Well, that's not worrisome at all.

Don't be too overconfident, Kon. After all, I have to wonder how magic-resistant you are, even with all those nice buffs you've got.

I see Cernunnos is being just as sceptical.

Well, good to know you can't mess that much up.

...I would laugh if it turns out Apep has a bit of a crush on the Ophidian. Unlikely, but an amusing image.

Ah, need a moment to steel your loins, Cernie?

...Why do I feel a weird sense of recognition? Probably something Warhammer-related.

Sometimes there's much more screaming, fire and blood.

I wonder if Helios is nudging him a little? Not in any direct way, but maybe the blessing lends him a little confidence.

You just don't like being unable to look before you leap, huh?

And things are about to get much more bizarre. Seriously, though, This does seem a little foolhardy, even if you rather do need to find out what they were doing in there. I mean, you could maybe have gone to the Setting Sun and prevailed upon Ra to hitch a ride, maybe? At any rate, I expect things will get a little more lively... And possibly more scaly, given a predominance of serpentine imagery involved down there.

 

Yes.

 

Hold it. Apep has been dead for 3 millennia. Like, dead-dead. Death of the Endless confirmed it.

 

That may be true in the comics, but it's not necessarily true here.

In the comics Daniel took over Dream's position while he was still young, but here he's a young man and way past the point where he took it.

Not everything will be adapted a 100% from the comics.

 

Huh. For some reason I thought of Khepri as female.

 

That'd be Worm for you. The franchise was my immediate thought as well when I read the name.