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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I would also say that it's a lot easier to have a rod knocked out of your hand, then it is to have a fitted ring knocked off your finger.
Actually, I was wondering. If the rings are capable of fleshcrafting, and can operate anywhere on the user's body, why do they always wear the rings externally? Sure, they'd have to expose it to recharge, but wouldn't keeping the ring in, say, the rib cage (or rib cage equivalent) be safer?
 
Actually, I was wondering. If the rings are capable of fleshcrafting, and can operate anywhere on the user's body, why do they always wear the rings externally? Sure, they'd have to expose it to recharge, but wouldn't keeping the ring in, say, the rib cage (or rib cage equivalent) be safer?
Thats what Paul did when he became a demon, Sybarite(another Paul who became a demon) also did that, but I think in general that wouldn't be good for the mental health of the wearer, considering that even green light has some influence on its users.
 
Actually, I was wondering. If the rings are capable of fleshcrafting, and can operate anywhere on the user's body, why do they always wear the rings externally? Sure, they'd have to expose it to recharge, but wouldn't keeping the ring in, say, the rib cage (or rib cage equivalent) be safer?
Yes, and OL kinda did that briefly when he invaded HEll. But I figure that, otherwise, it's not a thing for a few reasons:

1: It's usually unnecessary. As a lantern, if a opponent can get your ring off you despite construct armor/environmental shield, you've probably already thoroughly lost.
2: It might be counterproductive if you've lost a fight; a potentially merciful opponent would now find it necessary to seriously injure or kill you to disarm you.
3: It prevents you from easily removing the ring yourself (without taking advantage of the ring). This is a disadvantage with less stable ring colors such as avarice, because you can't easily remove it to halt the mental effects. Not to mention if you run out of charge, you're stuck with a ring embedded in you.
 
Mr Zoat, how did Dame Carol Danvers react to seeing the Zamarons of Universe 16? Befuddlement, disappointment, or curiosity?
The SI doesn't know.
Come now Karen, don't tell me you're that insecure. You're relationship is fucked if you are.

That being said...come on Holly.
Karon doesn't think that Holly's going to abandon her for a random woman she went jogging with. But she knows that Holly thinks about sex differently to how she does, and this isn't the first time Holly has blatantly checked someone out like this.
 
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1: It's usually unnecessary. As a lantern, if a opponent can get your ring off you despite construct armor/environmental shield, you've probably already thoroughly lost.
You would think that, but Sinestro makes it look pretty easy to steal even a White Ring.
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For the first point: okay, but they could probably invent it. They're Multi-billion year old omnidisciplinary geniuses, to the point that they only really specialize once they start getting into the really fancy tech like power rings. Surely, they could independently come up with cosmic rods.
Apparently they couldn't given how pathetic the Dark Stars Exo-Mantles actually were.

For the second: okay, but that's probably not the case here. And did that one human from Earth-15 travel through the entire multiverse, and teach them all about Emotional Spectrum technology? If so, that seems pretty absurd and unlikely for a lot of reasons.
He traveled 10 billion years into the past, before the timeline's split, and taught the Earth-0 Malthusians how to create the technology.
 
Apparently they couldn't given how pathetic the Dark Stars Exo-Mantles actually were.
I was under the impression that that was because of a lack of Emotional Spectrum tech, because all the other useful colors were accounted for, the Controllers managed to lose the only Avarice Fountain to Larfleeze, and their primary researcher/specialist went into a coma for billions of years on a gamble.


He traveled 10 billion years into the past, before the timeline's split, and taught the Earth-0 Malthusians how to create the technology.
Okay, but I'd advise caution because that's getting into wibbly wobbly, timer wimey stuff, which Zoat might make non-canon for reasons. Don't forget what happened to New 52.
 
Don't forget what happened to New 52.
No, do forget what happened to New 52.

Unlike DC, I'm pretty much the only person writing in With This Ring. Actual DC canon produces all sorts of stupidity and contradictions. So I decide what's canon and I try to make it make sense in terms of the other canon I've established.

In the featured image, what Sinestro did is possible. Kyle just failed a big focus and isn't actively resisting, while Sinestro is a very powerful Green Lantern.
 
Realigned

6th February
07:08 GMT -5


"Um." Holly stares at Artemis's tight-fitting work out trousers as she and Paula jog closer to our meet-up point in Robinson Park. "Damn."

Karon arches her right eyebrow.

"Huh? Oh, come on. Look at that!"

Karon turns her head away slightly and raises her right hand.

And Holly realises her mistake. "Karon. I didn't mean-."

"She's romantically involved with a young man, so I think you're out of luck."

"I'm window shopping, not-." Karon starts walking away. "Oh, no, that's not…"

Artemis jogs up beside me as Holly goes after Karon. "Ah… Are they… Not jogging with us?"

"Perhaps they'll… Join us later."

"Are they having a fight?"

I give my legs a quick stretch. My identity, Paula's former identity and Jade's identity are public knowledge, so anyone with a working brain should be able to tell that Artemis=Artemis. Then again, people around here… But, she doesn't want to strengthen the painfully obvious association so I'm wearing only one ring, it's on my left ring toe and my environmental shield is down so low that it's virtually invisible in this light. I mean yes, Gotham's better these days, but I'm not stupid.

Point being, I have to at least look like I'm warming up normally in order to maintain the pretence.

"Holly appreciated a certain person's physique out loud. Karon was less than impressed."

Artemis snorts as Paula slows to a stop alongside us. "Yeah?" Artemis looks around the park. "Who'd she check out?"

I look at her.

"That black chick over there?" She turns back and sees me looking at her. "She-. Oh. Huuuuuuh."

"I haven't spoken to Wallace about-."

Her eyes widen slightly. "I hadn't realised you'd met Wally."

"Yes, we've bumped into one another at KordTech a few times."

Not often, in reality, because neither of us are based there and we don't visit the same parts of the company. But it's a believable place for us to have met as far as a casual observer would be concerned if a) they knew who I was b) they don't know who Artemis is c) they know who Wallace is but don't know that he's Kid Flash, and, d), probably some other conditions as well.

"Oh. Right, yeah."

I smile at Paula. "Paula, good morning."

"Good morning, Paul. Ready for a run?"

"Yep. Just think I need to phone Wallace and warn him about 'that black chick' stealing his girlfriend first."

Artemis grimaces, growls quietly, then takes off down the path. Paula follows at a slightly slower pace, and I take a moment to make eye contact with Holly and wave before dashing to catch them up.

With crime falling and Pamela Isley reformed, Robinson Park has seen a resurgence of joggers. Mister Freeze murdering those people in Grant Park probably helped send the overflow here as well. Still, it's a cold part of the year and so we don't have that much competition for the pavement on work days.

So far Zatanna hasn't decided to tell everyone my age, and as I briefly meet Paula's eyes I'm sorely tempted to just come out with it. It's… Like the reason Bob gives in The Atrocity Archives for homosexuals being -historically- banned from the British intelligence services: being gay meant that you could be blackmailed by foreign agents… Because being gay meant that you could be fired, which was only a problem because of the rule banning homosexuals. After someone pointed out this catch 22 they changed the rules so that homosexuals were fine as long as they weren't in the closet, because if they were out and proud they couldn't be blackmailed about it.

Except…

If someone actually did blackmail me… What exactly happens? It's not as if I'm obsessed with public opinion, and… Compared to Grand Theft Baking Supplies, I doubt the fact that I told people I was twelve years younger than I actually am is going to arouse all that much excitement. Threatening to tell my friends? A bit awkward, but nothing compared to how anything someone could blackmail me into doing would make me feel. Police? I'm not a US citizen and I doubt that Hippolyta would care. I'm publically nineteen, so other than the fact that I'd be able to buy alcohol around here not a lot would change legally.

"Did you do a lot of running before you starting running with us?"

I glance at Paula for a moment before returning my attention to the path ahead of us.

"No, not really. Treadmills-" Once or twice, more to be sociable or because I was taking a break from my rings than for the purpose of exercise. "-or exercise machines were more my thing. Though my trainer did once make me run the marathon."

"Which one?"

"No. The marathon. I had to run from Athens to Sparta, retracing the route of Pheidippides. There's some nice countryside in Greece, but I can't honestly say that I recommend it."

"That could be interesting."

"I didn't know that you were into endurance running."

"When I was younger, I trained myself so that I was ready to commit whatever crime was most profitable. After I recovered from my injury, I tried to get back to that same level of fitness. But I no longer have anything to aim for."

"Perhaps you should try a normal marathon first? I mean, I can arrange passage to Greece-" By flying you there. "-and I'd be happy-" In the interests of building good relations with my future mother-in-law, not because I like running. "-to run it with you."

She smiles as we reach the northernmost part of the park and turn east. "Thank you."

I look right and see Holly and Karon cut across the grass to catch up with us, their disagreement apparently resolved. I'm not seeing any real emotional damage, but… Come on, Holly! At this point you should know that while Karon doesn't expect you to police your eyes she does expect you to police your mouth a little.

"Have you heard from Jade yet?"

"No, and I doubt that I will for a few days. She'll probably want to familiarise herself with her new working environment fairly intensely at the start."

"Who will she be fighting?"

"Hopefully, no one for a while. The place she's being sent to is a solid ally, but the… Enemy are really good at infiltrating and exploiting internal divisions. When she does, it will probably be locals armed with local weapons. Less dangerous than plenty of things she's fought on Earth."

She nods as Artemis slows to allow us to jog alongside her.

"I am sure that you are right, but I still worry. We had not fully reconnected when she left. I am not.. complaining that you found her the opportunity. If she must fight, then I would prefer her to fight for a good cause than for the League of Shadows. But I miss her."

I nod. Jade knows I can get access to instant communication technologies… But she hasn't asked me to give one to anyone. But I could nudge her about writing, or.. something. "I'll see if I can come up with something."
So fluffy... So slice of life. It's so cute.
Also, I kind of wonder how grief works when you are enlightened...
I wonder if Guy's enlightenment (or whatever it is that makes him have green quotation marks) is enough for him to also have the same ability to kind of perceive godspeech that Paul has.
Might be worthwhile for Paul to try to figure out how to teach enlightenment with the orange-battery linked controllers, since I'm reasonably sure they aren't at the mo but are probably the most attuned to the orange light of all possible candidates.
I wonder if the Orange Lantern Corps will have problems with the lanterns continuing to properly keep wanting to destroy the reach with there original passion, after a good amount of fighting, since once it becomes the standard slog, or just your job or such, it's quite easy to lose passion.
...Wait, the meeting with the zamorans already happened? I though that they were going to talk over such things and try to figure out an angle before then...
It is probably possible and worthwhile to do a Shazam-style empowerment using Blaze's (as well as Adom and his gods) knowledge of the process and the power of a few of the gods that Paul has the support of (Eris? Vulcan? Ophidian?). Heck, considering the beings the original marvels and Ibac draw power from, I suspect there's a far wider pool of empowering candidates than just a few gods.
 
No, do forget what happened to New 52.

Unlike DC, I'm pretty much the only person writing in With This Ring. Actual DC canon produces all sorts of stupidity and contradictions. So I decide what's canon and I try to make it make sense in terms of the other canon I've established.

In the featured image, what Sinestro did is possible. Kyle just failed a big focus and isn't actively resisting, while Sinestro is a very powerful Green Lantern.
Trust me, i'm no more a fan of mainstream DC canon anyway, for those exact reasons.

I mentioned New 52 as a way to point out :
Hey, don't go using obscure or nonsensical DC canon as justification for anything, because Zoat has made it abundantly clear that he will throw that out any mainstream canon if it doesn't mesh well with his story. Or even just because it's, yknow, stupid. The weirder the bit of canon you dredged up is, the less it contributes to whatever point you're making.
 
Hey Zoat, I'm curious, are you keeping up with the current wonder woman storyline dealing with hades and hecate?
 
Sadly that would be impossible, as DC have not published Wonder Woman comics for several years.
I can't tell if Zoat is being snarky, with DC publishing crap he is ignoring, or if they really aren't publishing Wonder Woman. I bring it up, because I remember reading something that declared that, by the deal signed when they acquired the rights to the character, they have to publish her at least once in a set time frame, or they lose the rights to her back to her creators estate.

Oh come the fuck on, now you're just being blatantly petty.
Welcome to the hotel Vaermina. You can check out any time you like, but he will never leave.

Blatantly petty is half of his shtick.

Actually, I was wondering. If the rings are capable of fleshcrafting, and can operate anywhere on the user's body, why do they always wear the rings externally? Sure, they'd have to expose it to recharge, but wouldn't keeping the ring in, say, the rib cage (or rib cage equivalent) be safer?
Well, admittedly, I"ve never seen power rings do as much fleshcrafting/self healing as Zoat has his do. Granted, this is another case of Zoat taking the ring's power to a logical conclusion that normal DC authors either don't think about, or just actively ignore because they don't want to have to muss with it.

Also, keeping your ring in your body sounds like a good idea, until it runs out of charge during a time when you can't charge it, and now you're just stuck with a ring wrapped around a rib.

Plus, just taking a power ring off a user's finger is notoriously wibbly wobbly. Sometimes you can, and other times that sucker is cemented on there. I recall a Bat-God moment when Robin just swipes Hal's ring off his finger when Hal is actively doing Lantern shit, and then nearly kills him. Or another when Hal goes "So you don't have any powers?" and Bruce just steals the ring right off his finger with a smug grin because Batman fanboys are writing everything now. Because badass normals are just so god damn badass and people with powers are just lame, helpless losers. Plus, DC was actively punking Green Lantern at that time. His whole role was just to get made fun of.
 
Apparently they couldn't given how pathetic the Dark Stars Exo-Mantles actually were.

Lol.

If you had ever read Darkstars you'd know that the Controllers don't even trust the darkstars with an independent power supply.

The "screw the Controllers" suits have a mini black hole as a power source, and have enough gravity manipulation to not only fly, but send energy blasts back at the people who fired them.

The maser technology can also be reversed to absorb energy instead of projecting it as shown in Adam Strange, so that list for darkstar powers are- Superstrength, armor, force fields, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, and gravity manipulation.

Cosmic rod- force field, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, gravity manipulation, huh, that list is awfully familiar.....
 
Kind of weird to see discussion/bagging on the New 52. That was eight years ago, and DC long ago backtracked on a lot of what they were doing in it.

The latest DC relaunch was Rebirth and even that was 2-3 years ago.

To make this post relevant, the DC character I like most who has never shown up in WtR (according to a thread search I just did on story only):

Metamorpho

Come on, he's a tomb raider with incredible powers that he rarely even comes close to exploiting, and the Orb of Ra seems to have no real limitation on the number of people it could potentially turn into Element People if they were willing to trade flesh-and-blood bodies for metamorpho bodies.
 
Kind of weird to see discussion/bagging on the New 52. That was eight years ago, and DC long ago backtracked on a lot of what they were doing in it.

The latest DC relaunch was Rebirth and even that was 2-3 years ago.
Man, I know people who are still extraordinarily pissed at the Spider-man Clone Saga. First and especially the second. Say "Maximum Carnage" around them at your own peril. Know another guy that literally punched his monitor hard enough to break it when he saw a Venom Trailer.

Metamorpho

Come on, he's a tomb raider with incredible powers that he rarely even comes close to exploiting, and the Orb of Ra seems to have no real limitation on the number of people it could potentially turn into Element People if they were willing to trade flesh-and-blood bodies for metamorpho bodies.

Metamorpho has one major issue against him.

He looks stupid as all hell. Like...REALLY stupid. Like, who the fuck designed this an who the fuck okay'd it after that?

As for his powers, one of DC's long standing problems is something like...80 some percent of their entire cast library could casually snap planets in half if you really thought about it.
 
I wonder if the Orange Lantern Corps will have problems with the lanterns continuing to properly keep wanting to destroy the reach with there original passion, after a good amount of fighting, since once it becomes the standard slog, or just your job or such, it's quite easy to lose passion.
Should not be a problem. The reach tend to provide a steady stream of atrocities to keep up motivation. Also they have lots of nice stuff.
Lol.

If you had ever read Darkstars you'd know that the Controllers don't even trust the darkstars with an independent power supply.

The "screw the Controllers" suits have a mini black hole as a power source, and have enough gravity manipulation to not only fly, but send energy blasts back at the people who fired them.

The maser technology can also be reversed to absorb energy instead of projecting it as shown in Adam Strange, so that list for darkstar powers are- Superstrength, armor, force fields, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, and gravity manipulation.

Cosmic rod- force field, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, gravity manipulation, huh, that list is awfully familiar.....
Earth is often unreasonably overpowered on the universal scale. Earth is the place where elder gods get beaten up all the time. How many planets do you think that Darkside has failed to invade in the past?
 
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Metamorpho has one major issue against him.

He looks stupid as all hell. Like...REALLY stupid. Like, who the fuck designed this an who the fuck okay'd it after that?

As for his powers, one of DC's long standing problems is something like...80 some percent of their entire cast library could casually snap planets in half if you really thought about it.

Good news. OL hates stupid costumes with a passion...... I mean he did completely revise Princess Diana's fashion don't, and burned Superman's pants-on-the-outside to ash.
I doubt Metamorpho's costume would last more than a single story arc before an "accident" befell it.

Thank God none of these idiots wear 2-4 inch heels or I would be begging Mr. Zoat to destroy them as well. (Heels are for fashion, NOT combat......... Unless you are a horse archer/riflemen then 1/2 inch is useful to get a better footing on the stirrups. Like cowboy boots.) I swear, I have lost my voice yelling at Justice League Action and RWBY (and others) because of "fashion" heels.
 
Man, I know people who are still extraordinarily pissed at the Spider-man Clone Saga. First and especially the second.
And then there's One More Day, which still has Linkara one-man-boycotting anything Spidey until it's permamently undone, not just retconned, retgone, and he's fully aware that's about as likely to happen as my dating Carol Ferris.

Thank God none of these idiots wear 2-4 inch heels or I would be begging Mr. Zoat to destroy them as well. (Heels are for fashion, NOT combat......... Unless you are a horse archer/riflemen then 1/2 inch is useful to get a better footing on the stirrups. Like cowboy boots.) I swear, I have lost my voice yelling at Justice League Action and RWBY (and others) because of "fashion" heels.
Magic, it's a wonderful thing.
 
Should not be a problem. The reach tend to provide a steady stream of atrocities to keep up motivation. Also they have lots of nice stuff.
Short to Mid term, I agree. But every time the Reach is pushed back, newly liberated worlds will need Orange Lanterns to help rebuild.

Pushing them back might end up being an invasion of Russia. You have to keep lengthen your supply lines, they will be shortening theirs. Maybe even turning a few worlds to glass in-order to slow allied advances. If they withdraw smartly, they could have a very dense, nearly impenetrable defense of their core system. Perhaps even a multi-century war.

Sure the motivation might be there, but without backup and many different ways to bypass anti-lantern technology, the allied progress will come to an end.
 
Short to Mid term, I agree. But every time the Reach is pushed back, newly liberated worlds will need Orange Lanterns to help rebuild.

Pushing them back might end up being an invasion of Russia. You have to keep lengthen your supply lines, they will be shortening theirs. Maybe even turning a few worlds to glass in-order to slow allied advances. If they withdraw smartly, they could have a very dense, nearly impenetrable defense of their core system. Perhaps even a multi-century war.

Sure the motivation might be there, but without backup and many different ways to bypass anti-lantern technology, the allied progress will come to an end.
Lanterns don't need much in the way of supplies.
 
Come on, he's a tomb raider with incredible powers that he rarely even comes close to exploiting, and the Orb of Ra seems to have no real limitation on the number of people it could potentially turn into Element People if they were willing to trade flesh-and-blood bodies for metamorpho bodies.

Actually the problem seems to be that Metamorpho doesn't know enough alchemy to look normal.

Megistus has the full chemical shapeshifting trick and he looks completely human when he isn't using it.

The implication isn't that Megistus is a Metamorphae, but that his knowledge of alchemy just gives him the same power.

I figure if enough alchemy can let someone turn his fists into kryptonite, then enough alchemy could turn the stuff Metamorpho is made out of into flesh and blood.

Although one possible hack I thought of was transforming people who have their own shapeshifting abilities.

Take a martian for example, I kinda figure a Martian Metamorphae would still be able to look like flesh and blood when they want.

Oh as for looking stupid, in Multiversity Metamorpho's daughter has a different look going for her
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Lanterns don't need much in the way of supplies.
Yes they do. Not food, air, munitions or anything of the like. No, they NEED backup against the Reach.

Remember, the Reach does have Anti-Lantern technology. This is why the Green Lanterns had to come to a draw with them.

For any successful attack you will need to use the Fleet they are now building, in conjunction with the Darkstars, to push past and disable or distract the Anti-Lantern stuff. There is a reason that Beatles are feared among the Darkstars. (IIRC they retreat when they have the option. Most of the time, death awaits those who fight a Beatles)
 
Yes, and OL kinda did that briefly when he invaded HEll. But I figure that, otherwise, it's not a thing for a few reasons:

1: It's usually unnecessary. As a lantern, if a opponent can get your ring off you despite construct armor/environmental shield, you've probably already thoroughly lost.
2: It might be counterproductive if you've lost a fight; a potentially merciful opponent would now find it necessary to seriously injure or kill you to disarm you.
3: It prevents you from easily removing the ring yourself (without taking advantage of the ring). This is a disadvantage with less stable ring colors such as avarice, because you can't easily remove it to halt the mental effects. Not to mention if you run out of charge, you're stuck with a ring embedded in you.
4: Remember when Paul called the ring from Trugg's and it took the finger with it? Imagine that but with a rib.
 
Good news. OL hates stupid costumes with a passion...... I mean he did completely revise Princess Diana's fashion don't, and burned Superman's pants-on-the-outside to ash.
I doubt Metamorpho's costume would last more than a single story arc before an "accident" befell it.

Thank God none of these idiots wear 2-4 inch heels or I would be begging Mr. Zoat to destroy them as well. (Heels are for fashion, NOT combat......... Unless you are a horse archer/riflemen then 1/2 inch is useful to get a better footing on the stirrups. Like cowboy boots.) I swear, I have lost my voice yelling at Justice League Action and RWBY (and others) because of "fashion" heels.
They're sometimes practical. If you have some sort of gadget in them - whether a dagger/spike, gun (think Bayonetta) , rockets, or anti-grav device, heels allow for a few cubic inches of hollowed out storage space to store a gadget in. Especially when you might as well be using magic / tech / super-agility to basically fly anyways, you don't need your feet to balance.
 
On another topic: American readers. If the President nominates a sitting Senator to a cabinet position, what happens to their seat in the Senate? Is there a by-election, is someone nominated to sub in for them or are they expected to do both jobs?

Depends on the state. The one thing that is consistent is that you cannot be both a Senator and a member of the cabinet simultaneously; there's a constitutional prohibition on being members of more than one branch of the federal government at once. (This would be approximately as big a Knowledge(Murica) failure as that one scene in The Sound Of Drums. It also applies to the Supreme Court, though that rarely came up and never does these days.)

In general, there is a by-election the following November to hold the seat for the rest of the term, with an appointee in the interim. But accordingly to in-state politics, anything from "appointee serves out remainder of term until the normal election" to "an election is held 90 days from the date the Senator resigns, the seat is empty until then" is possible. The current most aggressive election-holding, to the best of my knowledge, is Massachusetts, where Democrats control state politics but the governor is frequently Republican anyway; there, to minimize the governor's influence over the Senate, "law requires a special election to be held on a Tuesday, no fewer than 145 days, nor more than 160 days from the date of office vacancy, on a date determined by the governor".
 
Cosmic rod- force field, energy blasts, energy absorption, flight, gravity manipulation, huh, that list is awfully familiar.....
You forgot magnetic field manipulation, energy constructs, matter manipulation, FTL travel, variable radiation generation, dimensional travel, and mental attunement that allows you to control it with your mind.
 
Short to Mid term, I agree. But every time the Reach is pushed back, newly liberated worlds will need Orange Lanterns to help rebuild.

Pushing them back might end up being an invasion of Russia. You have to keep lengthen your supply lines, they will be shortening theirs. Maybe even turning a few worlds to glass in-order to slow allied advances. If they withdraw smartly, they could have a very dense, nearly impenetrable defense of their core system. Perhaps even a multi-century war.

Sure the motivation might be there, but without backup and many different ways to bypass anti-lantern technology, the allied progress will come to an end.

At that point you can take out the "realistic" outcome on the one hand or the "this is a comic book universe after all" on the other hand.

The "realistic" outcome is that Reach sues for peace, which if they get it will likely be on much more restrictive terms than they got from the Guardians because they did much worse in the war. Ideal outcome, there's some alternative social forces within Reach Society that the OL Corps can elevate in a regime change rather than forcing the same old leaders to begrudgingly accept restrictions.

The "this is a comic book universe" outcome is that would be unsatisfying and not fit the DC universe, so instead the OL discovers a magic "I win" weak point they can hit and bring down the entire Reach in a down-to-the-wire final battle.
 

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