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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Darko said:
You made a mistake when you spelled pegasi and wrote pesagi.

Unless she was simply talking like that because of her accent.
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Oh. Yes, I... See that now.

You know, this reminds me of something I saw on the old Wizards of the Coast forum. Someone randomised all the words in a sentence and asked if we could read them. I could.
 
In some fanons, rock farming is an example of geomancy in that their version of earth pony magic can cause the earth to form gems.

In this story, is buck used contextually the same way the word "fuck" is?
This is also common fanon.
 
There was this fic of Ff.net called 'Not The Hero' by Alara Rogers where Discord explains that earth ponies used to work the rocks with their magic so as to make it possible for them to be enchanted and used n the construction on fortresses.

It also goes into long explanations on the history and world of Wilson.
Things like the history of the Crystal Empire, what Sombra actually was(not a unicorn actually), how magic works etc.

There was even some explanations regarding Changelings, portraying them as Fae like, like living in hills and having a place called Avalon etc.

The other piece of fiction that portrays them like that, at least the only one i have seen do it would be Codex Equus.
They have courts based on things like Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter.
The Spring Court is located in a Hive called Avalon.
They are weird with what they say.
The leaders of the Spring and Summer court are named Titania and Oberon, though they are mostly called Empress Blackrose and Emperor Blackthorn.
There is even a Spring Changeling called Puck.

And speaking of Fae, there is this fic by theirishdreamer on SB called 'Good Intentions and Honourable Knights'.
The last chapter is from the perspective of the White Walkers and it is a fun and interesting read.
The Others in this fic basically made a truce with the humanity and built the Wall as a show of good faith, because walls make for good neighbors, gave the Nights Queen as a gift to the Watch and considered the wildling to be something like a tax that they agreed upon with humanity.
They call the Children 'Enslavers' and humans 'Warm Ones', while they call wights 'Useful Ones'.
The author was trying to show how they aren't evil so much as completely diffrent from humans in their mindset, like the Fae.
The Others hibernate for millenia, so for them humans suddenly wanting to kill them is seen as a betrayal, not just between some ancient pact that one side completely forgot about, but because to them the Pact only happened a few years ago at best.
The author also gave the idea that maybe the Children don't give a shit about humanity and only care about themselves.

Which isn't so hard to believe seeing as in the myths nature can be a real bitch.

Just look at Gaia and Typhon.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
Oh. Yes, I... See that now.

You know, this reminds me of something I saw on the old Wizards of the Coast forum. Someone randomised all the words in a sentence and asked if we could read them. I could.
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Yeah, the brain tends to take shortcuts so as long as the first and last letters are right most people can parse it and then fill in the blanks contextually.
Chojin Patriarch said:
Maybe she and Big Mac were instinctively using Lacertomancy in their love-crazed state...
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Love is the magic that powers and protects the earthen settlement that retains the most arcana.
 
Gantradies said:
completely uncertain- at the minimum, she... erm.. no.... longer had... a vagina when transformed-
just a "fuck pouch" simulating one...
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Sorry, I only read the next one in the series. Where a traitorous master of the Callidus Temple who'd been transferred into a dreadnought removed the genestealer implants and she turned into an eldar.
 
Alasnuyo said:
Okay, now I'm curious how Equestria even lost institutional knowledge of earth pony magics to begin with.
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Probably a mix of ponies dying and Earth ponies being too busy making food for everyone to teach the new generations.

And is not completely lost. Look at Maud Pie. Look at the Apples growing food. Look at Fluttershy getting an animal taming talent that's usually on Earth ponies. Don't forget Rock farming and look at what in Tartarus is what Pinkie Pie does.

The only thing no Earth Pony in the show can do seems to be hex breaking and I am sure Zebras can do that one. So Earth ponies could learn it back from them.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah, the good old cuppa. Most English way to defuse an argument. I hope Grayven isn't too uncomfortable, given your known dislike of Tea...
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There is over a thousand tea blends, people hate tea only because they just haven't found the right one, or because regular tea fucks up their digestive system.
 
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Mr Zoat said:
But most of our history is kept in the spoken word.
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So pretty much the first thing Scrivener says is that their history has mostly devolved into stories, myths and legends. And yet Sunset continues to push for details and clarifications.
After a millennia or more of chinese whispers everything but the broadest strokes is likely made up. Either to embellish, bias or fill-in forgotten gaps.

Outside, a single thickset stallion with a dull green pelt and grey mane and tail is pulling a cart. The cart is far taller than him, and has multiple thick wheels-. No, rollers, in order to keep the colossal weight of the thick trunks it's carrying from causing it to sink into the ground. That weight… I could pull it, but any normal pony wouldn't be able to move it an inch. And he's pulling it without much difficulty at all.
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Over in Equestria they have eight Earth Ponies pull an entire train. Why is one pulling a single cart considered impressive?

Alasnuyo said:
Okay, now I'm curious how Equestria even lost institutional knowledge of earth pony magics to begin with.
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As yet there is no evidence that they have.
Even assuming these nomads do have a greater knowledge of Earth Pony magic it is likely something they developed after all the unicorns and pegasi left. Necessity, mother of invention and all that.


Mr Zoat said:
You know, this reminds me of something I saw on the old Wizards of the Coast forum. Someone randomised all the words in a sentence and asked if we could read them. I could.
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Example:
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty
uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal
pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a
rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't
mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the
olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer
be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.
Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed
ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Amzanig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling
was ipmorantt! tahts so cool!
 
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WereDragon said:
Over in Equestria they have three Earth Ponies pull an entire train. Why is one pulling a single cart considered impressive?
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I remember eight doing it.

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And he's not just pulling a cart. He's pulling a giant cart laden with heavy limber.
 
Mr Zoat said:
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Assume for the sake of consistency that they don't.
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To be fair these aren't equivalent physical processes, pulling something isn't the same as lifting it (the cake may be inside the area of the instinctual spell and thus would also be affected by the magic) and there may be a mental/instinctual component at work in here as well, but the point is very fair at least from the eyes of someone with no knowledge of the setting beyond the odd YouTube thumbnail when the MLP craze was on its height.
 
There's also "Mare Do Well" stopping a runaway carriage from going over the cliff for Earth pony strength feats in the show.

 
Mr Zoat said:
pesagi
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Mr Zoat said:
pegusi
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Mr Zoat said:
Pesagi
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In addition to the two that were already commented on and not yet corrected, there's yet a third spelling in there as well.

Mr Zoat said:
Time to contribute. "From Cancellarius, meaning a court usher or guard."
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Really leaning on the ring there, Grayven, assuming that the modern Equish word derives from an ancient Equish root perfectly analogously to the way its English translation derives from a Latin root.

Mr Zoat said:
lacertomancy
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Divination by lizards? *headscratch* *looks it up* Oh. Heh. Silly fantasy writers not paying attention to the actual derivation of words... and also mixing Latin and Greek (not that scientists are all that good at that either). Just because the muscles of the upper arm are called "lacerti" doesn't mean "lacertus" is the word for "muscle." It just means that ancient anatomical researchers thought they kinda looked like lizards. I guess it's not necessarily WRONG, as it is USED that way, but it certainly doesn't convey the right meaning out of context.

Strictly speaking it should have been myomancy, or maybe dikefalomancy. Not your fault.

Chojin Patriarch said:
I hope Grayven isn't too uncomfortable, given your known dislike of Tea...
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It's blackcurrant, which has been noted ("ring, I want to taste blackcurrant") to be a flavor he does enjoy.
 
I few I only just got around to:
Rafin said:
Can you explain what's up with those? I've never seen them mentioned before this thread.
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Full explanation here. In summary:
Young Werner Glook was sent by his parents to an exclusive school in Marienburg - a common fate for children of rich and famous parents who couldn't be bothered to raise their off-spring for themselves. As a consequence, childhood was a lonely and deeply unhappy time for him. The school master's beat him frequently and the older boys adopted him as their personal slave.
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Werner being too obstinate to flee, was captured after a fierce fight in which he gave a fine display of fist fighting - a skill necessary in his school days.
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After three days of torture and no water, Werner had uttered not one cry of pain and the only words he had spoken were to defy his captors and curse their closer relatives. The Sheik was impressed, and his men were getting a bit nervous. Surely no ordinary men could endure so much pain. They were not to know that Werner was used to beatings, having suffered far worse at the hands of his fellow pupils at school. Once they had hung him for three days in the flue of the great chimeny in the headmaster's study... He had not uttered a word then either, not even when old Meistergriek had lit the fire to warm his old bones.
Senevri said:
That's fairly offensive, since I doubt you meant something like Andreja Pejic with hooves.
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Actually, yes. Take away the make up and clothes. Take a moment to look at the chirurgical scars. Now look wherever you want. Some daemonettes look like that: mostly what you'd expect from one sex but also slightly not. Slightly off. Some look like monster-Barbies. Others have a mix of characteristics.
Mr Zoat said:
Did she actually have a Purestrain form? I thought she transformed into a Cultist?
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Sorry, hybrid. Not cultist.
Senevri said:
Orrr... Equesstria's such a death world that unmanaged weather is double plus ungood. But, it's your fanfiction and you want to HPMoR "everypony else is stupid" it, it's your call.
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Orrr... One character expression an ill-informed opinion is not Word of Zoat?

I rather thought that after it turned out that Twilight hadn't killed dozens of Pinkie clones, people would have learned not to assume that the Renegade is right about everything.
 
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Coda said:
In addition to the two that were already commented on and not yet corrected, there's yet a third spelling in there as well.
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Thank you, corrected.
Divination by lizards? *headscratch* *looks it up* Oh. Heh. Silly fantasy writers not paying attention to the actual derivation of words... and also mixing Latin and Greek (not that scientists are all that good at that either). Just because the muscles of the upper arm are called "lacerti" doesn't mean "lacertus" is the word for "muscle." It just means that ancient anatomical researchers thought they kinda looked like lizards. I guess it's not necessarily WRONG, as it is USED that way, but it certainly doesn't convey the right meaning out of context.

Strictly speaking it should have been myomancy, or maybe dikefalomancy. Not your fault.
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I'd have gone with 'ligamancy' if I wasn't copying someone else.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Orrr... One character expression an ill-informed opinion is not Word of Zoat?

I rather thought that after it turned out that Twilight hadn't killed dozens of Pinkie clones, people would have learned not to assume that the Renegade is right about everything.
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Given it has been known that Renegade makes stuff up since the first time he did so way back on SB I kind of doubt one more in the long list of examples will change things.
 
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Eh, it's still early, maybe he will gradually become a kinder, more mellow in the following episodes.

I mean assuming Darkseid isn't waiting on the other side of the mirror to 'congratulate' him.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Orrr... One character expression an ill-informed opinion is not Word of Zoat?

I rather thought that after it turned out that Twilight hadn't killed dozens of Pinkie clones, people would have learned not to assume that the Renegade is right about everything.
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Because no one in story, including people who would know like the Elements of Harmony or Luna, has challenged his particular ill-informed opinion on earth pony magic?

Gravyen, and Sunset, being wrong is fine but if we never see anyone argueing with them and only have their own opinions to inform us of the world around them then we lack the context to tell which of their opinions are right or wrong.
 
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Lupercal said:
Because no one in story, including people who would know like the Elements of Harmony or Luna, has challenged his particular ill-informed opinion on earth pony magic?

Gravyen, and Sunset, being wrong is fine but if we never see anyone argueing with them and only have their own opinions to inform us of the world around them then we lack the context to tell which of their opinions are right or wrong.
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Uh... that is the very definition of unreliable narrator. You might not always know that their opinions are wrong. In fact, it serves the purposes of the narrative best to reveal the mistake only after there has been some sort of consequence, and the protagonists have to solve their mistake before it gets worse.
 
Lupercal said:
Because no one in story, including people who would know like the Elements of Harmony or Luna, has challenged his particular ill-informed opinion on earth pony magic?

Gravyen, and Sunset, being wrong is fine but if we never see anyone argueing with them and only have their own opinions to inform us of the world around them then we lack the context to tell which of their opinions are right or wrong.
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Everything Grayven knows about earth pony magic he got from Sunset. Sunset had access to all commonly available sources of information and a few uncommon ones. I've already covered that Celestia was withholding information from her, but her statements about the lack of generally available earth pony magic education are accurate, as are her comments in regard to trying to discover what it did.
 
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