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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
Somewhere
over the rainbow
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some large wagons pulls by
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'pulled by'?
Accents, the way cruel authors get to be even more evil. :)

Well, they're getting some hospitality... Probably without poison in the tea (bru/brew)...

Also, at least they haven't got Hamish and Dougal, because they'd have said, "You'll have had your tea...". :)
(I know, that's Edinburgh, not Glasgow...)

And, there's not been any generous offers of pony forehead being applied, yet, either.
 
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WereDragon said:
This assumes their sun is a standard yellow star one AU distance from the planet (or close enough) rather than a moon-sized fireball in high orbit.
Always consider why a system is setup as it is before deciding you should mess with it.
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Indeed. The majority of people don't realize just how fuckoff huge our sun is, because the relative distances make it look the same size as the moon.
If you have the option of using a magic forcefield for containing the fusion reaction rather than gravity or magnetic fields, a functional star can be made that small or smaller.
Particularly if the containment field can be powered by the fusion reaction itself.
Of course this means ponies have the ability to develop practical fusion reactors right now.

Coda said:
If she's functioning fine and isn't distressed by it, don't mess with her.
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Flying without decent depth perception is going to get her or someone else killed eventually.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"You know that's just pony obsessive compulsive disorder, right?"
"Most species don't bother regulating the weather.
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Most species lack the ability to regulate their weather. Particularly because without magic you cannot do so locally, instead needing to control the entire atmosphere all at once.
By the time you can micromanage rainfall you are way beyond the point of outdoor farming or ground transport being more than a hobby.

dialect
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While it isn't unreadable, having to stop and puzzle out what they are saying is very detrimental to enjoyment of the chapter. I came for a story, not a cryptography session.
 
Siskulous said:
Then?
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Thank you, corrected.
WereDragon said:
While it isn't unreadable, having to stop and puzzle out what they are saying is very detrimental to enjoyment of the chapter. I came for a story, not a cryptography session.
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Huh I remember correctly in the comics after Twilight becomes Ruler and Celestia and Luna retire another more warlike tribe of ponies decide to challenge her.

Hmm looks like your taking the Nyx's Family approach to old Equestrian caste system? Very interesting.
 
It's been so long since we've seen og paul that I can't remember what he was doing. I'm enjoying these arcs alot and look forward to your post each day but whenever we switch back can you tell the last chapter of that paul or give a link to that chapter.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"Hu 're yuh, jimmeh?"

Oh, by the Source, they're Scottish.
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ha! excellent little snippet there.

Z000 said:
as some one who don't read any chapter with red color, these Renegade Arc are torture, at least we gonna get more of that Warhammer Fantasy snip in a few day
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i wouldn't say it's tortuous, but this is me with the (apparently?) Warhammer chapters. i enjoy Renegade, but i know absolutely nothing about Warhammer. i'm shocked to see myself type this, but i know more about MLP than i do Warhammer, so the Warhammer chapters are just confusing for me.

i'm still hoping, in my heart of hearts, that someday Lobo will make an appearance in the Main storyline. as the last Czarnian and having a less-than-pleasant personality, I see him as being an excellent foil for Paul's straight man. there's precedent for him being in Young Justice, too, so it's not too far-fetched!

i also hope for an update on the Ophidian and her dis/satisfaction with having her own Corps.

regardless, Zoat, keep up the good work ya bastich.
 
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Mquz said:
I think this is the only time the ring chose to do an accent instead of translating directly into English. Heck, it would probably remove the actual Scottish accent and turn it into English. Unless Grayven is intimately familiar with the Scottish dialect for some reason?
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I want to say it's happened before but this story is over three million words long so I can't pinpoint in my memory when it was.

It makes sense that the ring would want to communicate information about different dialects of the same source language as different dialects of the same target language.

Sockmonkey said:
Flying without decent depth perception is going to get her or someone else killed eventually.
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I did say "if she's functioning fine." If it's actually introducing a problem, that's another story entirely.
 
Coda said:
I want to say it's happened before but this story is over three million words long so I can't pinpoint in my memory when it was.

It makes sense that the ring would want to communicate information about different dialects of the same source language as different dialects of the same target language.


I did say "if she's functioning fine." If it's actually introducing a problem, that's another story entirely.
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They might be the same source language, but it's been more than a thousand years. At this point, due to linguistic drift, their languages should be less similar than English and French, which both came from Latin/ Greek. Probably closer to English and Russian, which both came partially from Greek, but bastardized with the local languages to make their own new combinations. It's still weird that the ring is saying the language they're speaking is as close to standard Equestrian as Scottish is to British English but Subset shimmer still can't understand them. If this is the way the ring translates, have to wonder what Grayven sounds like to the other pony.
 
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The highlander ponies are going to be pissed that Grayven's brought back the sassenach.
 
Mquz said:
At this point, due to linguistic drift, their languages should be less similar than English and French, which both came from Latin/ Greek.
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English isn't a romance language. English is descended from Old English, otherwise known as Anglo-Saxon which is one of the West Germanic languages. Then after the Norman conquest it got replaced with Anglo-Norman, a French relative before hybridizing into the various Middle English dialects(of which the London version ended up evolving into Early Modern English and then into Modern English).
 
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due to linguistic drift
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In addition to GhostKing's excellent point, one thing about linguistic drift is that the fastest source of drift is contact with other languages. Isolated populations tend to stay closer to the ancestral tongue than populations engaging in commerce with other cultures. In fact, these isolated dialects can be very informative in studying language evolution and history. They do, of course, still drift, but it's not nearly as rapid.

Case in point: I can, with some effort, muddle through Middle English untranslated. That's around 900 years. Most of the difficulty comes in changes in how the language is written -- there are entire letters of the Middle English alphabet that we don't have anymore. But it's easy to tell that it's the same language. If it's read aloud (at least with our best reconstruction of what the vowels sounded like), it sounds sort of like English spoken as if it were German.
 
Zoat are you going to feature Dr Hooves in this or any other future episode involving Equestria?
Considering his interest in science and the renegades advanced technology...
 
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Mr Zoat said:
OCD is not an indication of stupidity. It is a psychological condition.
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Actual OCD is a psychological condition, but there are plenty of people who don't have that condition and stupidly obsess over things anyway. I would argue that controlling the weather the way they seem to is less obsessive and more "we've always done it this way" type thinking. And, in my opinion, mindlessly doing something because it's been done that way before without ever questioning it...well, it's not stupidity exactly, but it also doesn't exactly suggest great intelligence.
 
Siskulous said:
I would argue that controlling the weather the way they seem to is less obsessive and more "we've always done it this way" type thinking.
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There's also some significant benefits to Equestria's weather management. They never need to worry about losing crops to drought, or excessive rain. They don't need to worry about autumn rains preventing them from harvesting their crops before they're buried in snow. They don't need to worry that the winter will last longer than they have food supplies for. They don't need to worry about a sudden cold snap in late spring causing them to lose seeds to frost.

While the Renegade is right that many other cultures "get by" without controlling the weather, it honestly feels a bit OOC for him to be arguing against seizing every advantage they can.

 
Darko said:
Zoat are you going to feature Dr Hooves in this or any other future episode involving Equestria?
Considering his interest in science and the renegades advanced technology...
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No.
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There's also some significant benefits to Equestria's weather management. They never need to worry about losing crops to drought, or excessive rain. They don't need to worry about autumn rains preventing them from harvesting their crops before they're buried in snow. They don't need to worry that the winter will last longer than they have food supplies for. They don't need to worry about a sudden cold snap in late spring causing them to lose seeds to frost.
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Unless one pony with a tortoise obsession break into their weather factory and covers the country with snow.
 
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Unless one pony with a tortoise obsession break into their weather factory and covers the country with snow.
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That doesn't mean there aren't still good reasons to implement such a system.

For that matter, they didn't always have such a system, there would have had to have been a point in history where the pegasi weren't managing the weather for the farmer's, meaning that the farmer's had to have seen some benefit in actually continuing this relationship. Nobody wants to pay for a service that doesn't actually do anything.
 
Zoat if Paul can get rid of the chaotic influence over the daemons he assimilates then can he defeat Lucius The Eternal without being taken over even if he feels satisfaction from defeating him?
 
Darko said:
Zoat if Paul can get rid of the chaotic influence over the daemons he assimilates then can he defeat Lucius The Eternal without being taken over even if he feels satisfaction from defeating him?
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If he met one Chaos Marine amongst the billions of billions in the grim dark galaxy of the 41st millennium? Yes, probably.
 
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If he met one Chaos Marine amongst the billions of billions in the grim dark galaxy of the 41st millennium? Yes, probably.
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Unless you are changing things, there can't be billions of chaos marines. There were nine traitor legions. Each legionis around 100 - 200 thousand strong. So, at most, there's two million of chaos space marines.
 
It's a bit odd that so few soldiers are capable of holding a galaxy sized territory together.

I mean i know they do a pretty shitty job of it, but still that they manage to do it at all is just Mary Sueish to the extreme.

Don't say the regular human soldiers do it. They're basically just meta shields at this point.
 
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